10 sec full weight a4 cars.What kind of setup will it take to hit 10s
07-10-2009, 01:44 PM
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10 sec full weight a4 cars.What kind of setup will it take to hit 10s Im lookin to start another build.. I sold my m6 car in my sig.. The next car i want to build i want to make it into the 10s on a stock bottom end.. when i say stock i mean stock displacement.. the only thing i want to do to the bottom end is rod bolts. i know this is gonna cost a fortune to hit this mark.. but i just wanna be able to say ive hit 10s on a stock CI 346 with just heads cam and intake. and other bolt ons in a full weight A4 car with a lot of suspension mods. .... so what kind of setup will it take to hit this mark.. i know its been done before.. so guys post up..
07-10-2009, 02:04 PM
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My car is a little over 3700lbs with me in it - best ET in sig. I have a forged shortblock, but similar results could be had w/o one. I have AFR 205's, a custom gorund cam by Crane similar in specs to a Thunder Trak or TSP Torquer, Mamo Ported FAST 90 w/ a 90mm NW TB, ATI UD pulley/dampener, Meziere EWP, 160* stat, Kooks 1.75" - 1.875" LT headers, TSP 3" duals, Lots of BMR stuff, QA1's, Yank SY3500 stall, built 4L60E, 3.73 gears, 275/60-15 MT drag radials. The car is very docile and was even daily driven for a while w/o a hitch. You could go more aggressive on the cam, bigger converter, more gear, and even try some TFS 215's to eek out a little more power with the only trade off of not being as smooth running as my car.
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07-11-2009, 03:10 PM
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awesome man.. thanks for the post.. i was lookin into tfs 215s and maybe like a ms4 and fast 90/90 with all other boltons as well.. but didnt know if that would cut it with out nitrous.. i dont mind any power adders.. but i really just want to be able to say ive hit tens on all motor..
07-11-2009, 04:24 PM
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Why not get a decent cam and a good hit of nitrous? My car runs mid 11's all day NA and i'm hoping a 100-150 shot of the giggle will net me a high 10.x pass.
07-11-2009, 04:51 PM
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awesome man.. thanks for the post.. i was lookin into tfs 215s and maybe like a ms4 and fast 90/90 with all other boltons as well.. but didnt know if that would cut it with out nitrous.. i dont mind any power adders.. but i really just want to be able to say ive hit tens on all motor..
07-11-2009, 05:14 PM
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nothing wrong with nitrous.. ive just never personally ran it.. its just my goal to hit 10s on the motor. once i do that y not do some work to the bottom end and throw a 100-150 shot on it then shoot for low 10s or even high 9s.. i want a set up to where i dont have to worry about an intake exploding.. i understand that as long as the car is tuned right that should not happen.. but everything is capable of malfunction.. more power to any1 who runs nitrous.. its a great bang for the buck.. but my goal is 10s on motor..
as for fast 92 thats what i meant.. i dunno y i typed fast 90/90.. i guess just force of habit from always hearing fast 90/90
as for fast 92 thats what i meant.. i dunno y i typed fast 90/90.. i guess just force of habit from always hearing fast 90/90
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07-11-2009, 05:27 PM
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Right now my main goal is to save up for a 12 bolt, no more exploding 10 bolts. After that I want to get a better set fo rockers, (Crane gold's), and look into porting my 90mm to accept a RevX 95mm TB,and possibly a 100mm MAF. I doubt it will pick up much, but I just need a little more to offset the weight of the 5 pt. Wolfe bar I'm about to add. I also want to see about a better converter for my application. The car is consistent as all hell, but I feel like I'm leaving some on the table. I've got it narrowed down to FTI or PI. I would like to keep working with what I've got and go 10.50's this winter when it cools down.
Like I said, I could have gone more radical - but my car drives really well. Rush hour traffic didn't even seem to affect it. It just was a little hairy in the rain on the MT's, but I slowed down and drove easy - not a big deal. It's nice to have a car with all the creature comforts and be able to run 10's in "street trim."
Like I said, I could have gone more radical - but my car drives really well. Rush hour traffic didn't even seem to affect it. It just was a little hairy in the rain on the MT's, but I slowed down and drove easy - not a big deal. It's nice to have a car with all the creature comforts and be able to run 10's in "street trim."
07-13-2009, 01:55 PM
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Mine is at 11.2 at full weight in +1800 DA.
Here is what I got. TA with 92k miles on the shortblock. Cheap $$ TSP 5.3L heads,228 Cam,LS6 intake,ARH 1 7/8 headers,EWP,underdrive pulley, Yank SS4000 stall,3.73 gears. Race weight is 3600lbs.
With a FAST92mm and a better DA I'm sure this will run 10's.Add some TFS 215's and a bigger Cam it will go mid 10's.
The car is built to run a local 11.5 index class right now.
Here is what I got. TA with 92k miles on the shortblock. Cheap $$ TSP 5.3L heads,228 Cam,LS6 intake,ARH 1 7/8 headers,EWP,underdrive pulley, Yank SS4000 stall,3.73 gears. Race weight is 3600lbs.
With a FAST92mm and a better DA I'm sure this will run 10's.Add some TFS 215's and a bigger Cam it will go mid 10's.
The car is built to run a local 11.5 index class right now.
07-13-2009, 02:18 PM
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cam and nitrous got me bottom 10's in a 98 stock rod bolts and 140K miles.
killer heads, TFS are the best best but others can get you there(TEA, Livernoise, PRC 5.3's LS6's etc), 23X 24X cam, PT4400 converter, 4.10 gears should get you there in +1000-1800DA
killer heads, TFS are the best best but others can get you there(TEA, Livernoise, PRC 5.3's LS6's etc), 23X 24X cam, PT4400 converter, 4.10 gears should get you there in +1000-1800DA
07-13-2009, 04:34 PM
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any1 know of anybody running the trick flow 215 head and cam combo.. just wondering what kinda numbers their new cam puts out.. the new cam is a 238/242 duration with a 595/595.. sounds like a pretty nice setup but just wondering if any1 has tried them yet.
07-13-2009, 10:29 PM
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Would this do it:
-Patriot LS6 heads 308/230 flow
-224/228 Comp Cam
- 42's
- FAST 92 / 95mm TB
I'm putting those on mine with the 3700 stall and 3.70 9". Don't know if it will go 10's but went almost 12.0 with bolt-ons. Will drive fairly normal
-Patriot LS6 heads 308/230 flow
-224/228 Comp Cam
- 42's
- FAST 92 / 95mm TB
I'm putting those on mine with the 3700 stall and 3.70 9". Don't know if it will go 10's but went almost 12.0 with bolt-ons. Will drive fairly normal
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07-14-2009, 12:23 PM
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It would be hard to hit 10's without taking some weight out of it and stock displacement. My car would run better NA numbers with some weight reduction and a bigger convertor but nitrous is the best bang for the buck. Drove my car 300 miles to the track with the cruise on and drove it home. Mods and times in my sig. Good luck on your build!
