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Old 10-16-2014, 10:04 AM
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I made some upgrades last winter and although I picked up a couple tenths I fell short of my goal. Last summer I think I went 11.87 @ 114, this year's best was 11.62 @ 116 at the beginning of the season.

This coming winter I am hoping to get a Fast intake and TB, finally upgrade to a good CAI and an updated tune with the expectation to run 11.50. I have a laundry list of other things I would like to do if I can swing the time and money. Wish me luck...

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2002 camaro
799 heads ported by TEA
BTR stage 4 cam
Stock LS6 intake
ARH 1 7/8 headers, Y pipe and Magnaflow catback
stock 5.7L bottom end
A4 with an FTI 4000 stall cam
3.73 gear, Strange 12 bolt and 26" rear tire.
1.62 60', 11.62 @ 116mph.
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Looks good, a 27 or 28" tire may help your 60' if your spinning at all, usually higher stalled autos like yours are in the 1.4-1.5 range, that'll get you to 11.50 alone without the new intake
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What was your 1/8 mile?
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Car is full weight?
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Not sure of weight, minimal weight reduction of ac compressor, abs, and a.i.r. pump.

best 1/8 et was during the same run 7.38 @ 92.7, but usually in the 11.46 range.

Current rear tire is a Nitto 555R and can be hit or miss with traction. I will be going to a M/T. The problem is I am still with stock 16" rims. The original MT radial should work well and is a 255/60-15 or still roughly 26" dia. The newer radial 2 is a 295/50-16 and I need to see if that will fit or not.
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We have extremely similar mods. AI 243 heads, same cam, Fast 92, 1 7/8 headers to true duals. Im just M6 (Moser 12 bolt, 4.11s and 28" tires). 1.71 60ft, 11.7 @ 119.68 with a bad bog. Get that traction figured out and I think youll find your goal before you change the intake. I think mine as a 11.4-11.5 in it without the bog
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Most of the time traction isnt a problem. It hooks and goes. This is all its got with the current set up. The only time traction is an issue is when I start going rounds and they will spin when I need them most. Ill get a 1.7 something 60'.
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The mickey 295/50/16s work well on the stock 16x8s, lots of mustang guys run them too on on their 16x8 "pony" wheels as well

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Originally Posted by ironmanLS1
I made some upgrades last winter and although I picked up a couple tenths I fell short of my goal. Last summer I think I went 11.87 @ 114, this year's best was 11.62 @ 116 at the beginning of the season.

This coming winter I am hoping to get a Fast intake and TB, finally upgrade to a good CAI and an updated tune with the expectation to run 11.50. I have a laundry list of other things I would like to do if I can swing the time and money. Wish me luck...

Here is a summary of the car.
2002 camaro
799 heads ported by TEA
BTR stage 4 cam
Stock LS6 intake
ARH 1 7/8 headers, Y pipe and Magnaflow catback
stock 5.7L bottom end
A4 with an FTI 4000 stall cam
3.73 gear, Strange 12 bolt and 26" rear tire.
1.62 60', 11.62 @ 116mph.

you should have no problem getting there as our cars are pretty much the same.

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ezzlez and Johnny - the one thing you have that I don't is a Fast intake, fwiw. That is a primary item to get over the winter.

I'll have to measure for those 295's. It looks like some people run them. I know the MT ET street radial's work in a 255. I have them on my nova that runs high 10.80's. Then again the suspension between the two is apples and oranges!

Thanks guys. Keep the comments coming.
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He isn't spinning. His 60' should probably be a bit lower with the big converter, I agree. But traction obviously isn't a problem or he wouldn't be in the 1.6s. Some shocks/springs may help you out. Do you disconnect the front swaybar? May be good for a bit in the 60ft.
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The front swaybar is off the car. I forgot to mention that weight reduction item. The front suspension is stock with worn out struts. The back is set up with a BMR torque arm, adjustable control arms and strange shocks.

The rear suspension is good, the front needs a good set of shocks/springs. It will transfer weight okay but falls back down too fast. In marginal traction conditions this will unload the rear tire and one of the reasons it can spin. Like I said, most of the time not a problem.
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What was the DA the day that you ran those passes?
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X2, you seemed plagued with crappy DA like me, trapping bolton speeds with a heads/cam car relative to the area though, at my track stock ls1s are lucky to break 100mph and full bolton cars are 106-108mph, even a guy here with a well setup 540whp TSP 416 LS3 only does 121-123

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1700' DA for my best times.

The DA will get better than that in the spring and fall, but most of the time it is greater than 2000'.
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I had 1900 on my best time in the fall last year, only raced summer this year and DA never got below 3000 on the days i made it out
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Something seems very off to me. op is running bolt-on times with a h/c car. The mph seems very low. What kind of power does it make?

Is the trans stock with just the converter? Does it ever feel coupled?

What's the shift points?

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Originally Posted by NW Iowa WS6
I had 1900 on my best time in the fall last year, only raced summer this year and DA never got below 3000 on the days i made it out
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Something seems very off to me. op is running bolt-on times with a h/c car. The mph seems very low. What kind of power does it make?
I would agree that something is a little off. The summer before it put out 378hp. Then that winter I had the heads ported by TEA and changed the cam. The cam was only slightly larger than what I had before. I didn't get an updated tune due to money constraints so I don't know how much I am leaving on the table right now because of it.

Even with the DA I am subject to around here I would like to see 1-2 more mph, so I am going to go through a bunch of things this winter, some minor weight reduction, CAI, Fast intake/TB and a new tune.

One of the things I wonder if it is holding me back is the trans. I have a vibration in third gear. I don't notice it at full throttle but it is definitely there at cruise rpm. I had a beast sunshell with bad vibration, but that was supposed to be replaced with a Sonnax. With the Sonnax I still have a little vibration. And how much does that vibration equate into lost hp and et? Maybe it is negligible, I don't really know.

Another thing, I run Type F in the trans, Does anyone know if the viscosity is different with Dexron? If Dexron is a little lighter that may be worth changing over to.
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My car this past summer went 11.27 @ 120 in 1800 DA with a 1.57 60ft for comparison. Last year with my old setup and a 3600 converter the car went 12.03 @ 114 in 800 DA. Both setups had the same built trans. I wonder if your trans is slipping a little cause I think your mph should be around 117-118 for that DA with your setup.


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