xylene mixed with gas
03-05-2003, 10:08 PM
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xylene mixed with gas Ok if i mix xylene with gas will that be ok to run and wont it up my octane some ? need info i bought it on accident i mean to buy denatured alchohol for my alky/water injection <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
03-05-2003, 11:07 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas Yup, itll reduce the chances of det. buy increasing the octane level. Ask parish about the link for the fuel mixes. Xylene is used in octane boost which you buy at the store. I just wonder if it harms your injectors,o2 sensors, and cats....@ a 30% mixture.
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03-06-2003, 10:36 AM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Maxmumboom:
<strong> Yup, itll reduce the chances of det. buy increasing the octane level. Ask parish about the link for the fuel mixes. Xylene is used in octane boost which you buy at the store. I just wonder if it harms your injectors,o2 sensors, and cats....@ a 30% mixture.
J </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nah, won't harm the injectors but it'll do a number on any exposed rubber (lines, o-rings, etc.) over a short period of time.
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<strong> Yup, itll reduce the chances of det. buy increasing the octane level. Ask parish about the link for the fuel mixes. Xylene is used in octane boost which you buy at the store. I just wonder if it harms your injectors,o2 sensors, and cats....@ a 30% mixture.
J </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nah, won't harm the injectors but it'll do a number on any exposed rubber (lines, o-rings, etc.) over a short period of time.
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03-06-2003, 04:19 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas i would like to know about the harm to rubber part, that is the first bad thing i have heard about it. zylene is an ingredant in octane boosters and in some race gas. here is the link http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octanebooster.html
i have added 5 full gallons 5 times now and haven't seen any side effects yet, i am going with right at a 30% mix. i also have no cats
it really seems to work and is cheap, 92 costs almost $2.00 now, the zylene can be had for $4.00/gal, so to end up with 15gallons of 100 octane only cost me about $40, vs actual 100octane fuel at $4.00?/gallon x 15 = $60.00
i did a bunch of runs one day and here is what i came up with.
6psi 92 gas, no knock
8psi 92 gas, full 8deg of KR continuas
8psi with 30% zylene added to 92, no knock
11psi with 30% zylene added to 92, spike of 8deg KR but tapering thru the run
i don't have a 9 or 10 lb pully but i bet i could get away with at least a 9psi pully based on that days runs.
i have added 5 full gallons 5 times now and haven't seen any side effects yet, i am going with right at a 30% mix. i also have no cats
it really seems to work and is cheap, 92 costs almost $2.00 now, the zylene can be had for $4.00/gal, so to end up with 15gallons of 100 octane only cost me about $40, vs actual 100octane fuel at $4.00?/gallon x 15 = $60.00
i did a bunch of runs one day and here is what i came up with.
6psi 92 gas, no knock
8psi 92 gas, full 8deg of KR continuas
8psi with 30% zylene added to 92, no knock
11psi with 30% zylene added to 92, spike of 8deg KR but tapering thru the run
i don't have a 9 or 10 lb pully but i bet i could get away with at least a 9psi pully based on that days runs.
03-06-2003, 05:06 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas I have been using it for years in my turbo buicks and have never had a problem.it is like 118 octain but it don't have any lubricant in it so i have allways put 4 oz of mystry oil for every gallon. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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03-06-2003, 08:40 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas You're not going to have any problems using xylene. It's a high end aromatic hydrocarbon, that's already used in gasoline. You're just uppin' the concentration. I have used it for awhile in a number of my cars.It is highly carcinogenic (cancer causing). I would use rubber gloves while you pour it into the tank. The stuff is not cheap by any means either. It sells retail for about $10/gal. If you get it by the five gallon drum it costs around $7-$8/gal. This is from a paint supply business. It wouldn't make sense from an economical sense to run it every tankful unless you race. You won't harm your injectors or anything else. I don't care what anybody else says. It really only shows it's magic when you get around 2.5 gallons and above per tankful. Less than that, and your just pissin' in the wind. Have fun!
03-06-2003, 08:45 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas One other tid bit for anybody that is interested. You can make your own fuel injector cleaner by, adding one cup of mineral spirits at refueling to your gas. This will clean your injectors. It will make your catalytic converters run hot. So, you only use it for a maintenance reason.
03-06-2003, 09:00 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas so what would happen if we ran only xylene how would that work since yall said it was 118 octane would that be any fun or just a waste?
03-06-2003, 10:19 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by redaddiction:
<strong> so what would happen if we ran only xylene how would that work since yall said it was 118 octane would that be any fun or just a waste? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thats a good question, i have never gone over 30% because that is all they have listed on that GN site, they tell you info about some of the other adatives like alcohol over a certain % is bad for certain parts but they didn't say anything about the xylene. i wouldn't go over 30% without geting more info first.
<strong> so what would happen if we ran only xylene how would that work since yall said it was 118 octane would that be any fun or just a waste? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thats a good question, i have never gone over 30% because that is all they have listed on that GN site, they tell you info about some of the other adatives like alcohol over a certain % is bad for certain parts but they didn't say anything about the xylene. i wouldn't go over 30% without geting more info first.
03-07-2003, 03:10 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas ok well i'm going to mix some with gasoline at certain percentages then put certain items in the sealed jars and let them sit for awhile and see what happens tell me what all i should test
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03-07-2003, 07:16 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by redaddiction:
<strong> so what would happen if we ran only xylene how would that work since yall said it was 118 octane would that be any fun or just a waste? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I've ran straight xylene a couple of times. I had just ran the tank a little low on gas, not that it was intentional. So when I went to add xylene, I was basically on an empty tank. It ran like a different machine, excellent throttle repsonse, and it had a really tight feel. I wouldn't run it straight for any long period of time. You might want to change your fuel filter, any way, just to make sure your fuel system is in tip top shape. I think in the end, at least for me, economically, it was a waste of money.
<strong> so what would happen if we ran only xylene how would that work since yall said it was 118 octane would that be any fun or just a waste? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I've ran straight xylene a couple of times. I had just ran the tank a little low on gas, not that it was intentional. So when I went to add xylene, I was basically on an empty tank. It ran like a different machine, excellent throttle repsonse, and it had a really tight feel. I wouldn't run it straight for any long period of time. You might want to change your fuel filter, any way, just to make sure your fuel system is in tip top shape. I think in the end, at least for me, economically, it was a waste of money.
03-07-2003, 07:21 PM
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Re: xylene mixed with gas </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by redaddiction:
<strong> ok well i'm going to mix some with gasoline at certain percentages then put certain items in the sealed jars and let them sit for awhile and see what happens tell me what all i should test
marc </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really don't understand what all the testing is going to accomplish. None of that is going to prove anything, because you won't be running it straight for any lenghth of time. It will be mixed in with the pump gas. It won't be any different than race fuel. All those parts will be able to handle it, because they already do. Xylene is in the gas that you get at the gas station.
<strong> ok well i'm going to mix some with gasoline at certain percentages then put certain items in the sealed jars and let them sit for awhile and see what happens tell me what all i should test
marc </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really don't understand what all the testing is going to accomplish. None of that is going to prove anything, because you won't be running it straight for any lenghth of time. It will be mixed in with the pump gas. It won't be any different than race fuel. All those parts will be able to handle it, because they already do. Xylene is in the gas that you get at the gas station.
