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Old 12-20-2009, 07:26 PM
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I was searching online on cam bearings and I found this:

http://www.dpecorvettes.com/gpage.html

He did a roller cam bearing on LS7!!!

I know he used aftermarket block but I was wondering if I can do it on stock LS1 block?
anyone have any ideas??


Thank you,
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My C5R race engine has roller cam bearings.
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you can put them in a stock block-but why would you want to?
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
you can put them in a stock block-but why would you want to?


I want to try something new on the dyno and see if I can get more power.

Less Friction = More Power
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
you can put them in a stock block-but why would you want to?
Exactly!

The only time they save power is during startup when the oil isn't flowing.

Unless your running 8000 to 9000 RPM for several hours and want to run less oil through the cam thus saving a little oil flow. The babbit bearings are still the hot set up.

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Originally Posted by Robin L
Exactly!

The only time they save power is during startup when the oil isn't flowing.

Unless your running 8000 to 9000 RPM for several hours and want to run less oil through the cam thus saving a little oil flow. The babbit bearings are still the hot set up.

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you are exactly right Robin,the most popular misconception about roller cam bearings is that they save power-they don't.
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Sorry to bring up a very old post, but when i was researching roller cam bearings i came across this post.

Why is it they would not produce more hp? i would think with the spring pressure pushing the cam against the bottom side of the bearing this would ease the rotation of the cam. i know you said this is a misconception, but why does it lose hp?

Also in a motor built for ET but run on the street 8000 miles a year would this prolong bearing life with higher spring pressures?

thanks!
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Originally Posted by shadowsniper3006
Sorry to bring up a very old post, but when i was researching roller cam bearings i came across this post.

Why is it they would not produce more hp? i would think with the spring pressure pushing the cam against the bottom side of the bearing this would ease the rotation of the cam. i know you said this is a misconception, but why does it lose hp?

Also in a motor built for ET but run on the street 8000 miles a year would this prolong bearing life with higher spring pressures?

thanks!
Your thinking makes since but the camshaft does not ride on the cam bearing itself it rides on the oil pumped between the camshaft and the bearing. A roller cam bearing uses a lot less oil. Oil that can be used somewhere else.(Turbo, Piston coolers that sort of stuff). They are more for longevity.
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oh so the regular bearings should really have no metal on metal contact, but the rollers really do ride on the cam therefore creating more friction and sucking hp out?
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pretty much. I don't think they suck up any hp but they don't free up any either.
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If you need less oil at the cam, you can technically lower your pump volume (and pressure??), saving you hp at the oil pump. Theoretically, wouldn't this also lower oil temps? Can't see it being much...



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