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Old 10-29-2008, 04:47 PM
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Ok so I'M pretty fed up, Ive tried a few different polishes, waxes, etc. I have a black trans am and its got great paint on it. Just swirled all to hell! I cant stand it, I get really picky and its pissing me off. I have both an orbital buffer (2400OPM) and a PC buffer which I can use. Can someone list me a step by step on products and what order to remove swirls and get my black paint back in perfect condition!!! What pads, etc do I need and polishes and all that. I don't want to order anything offline so it needs to be something from a local parts store (advance, auto zone, etc) I also have a paint supply store up the road as well. I'm so frustrated with messing with this!!!
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Get you some Meguiars #80. Use it with the PC on 5. Then put some NXT on it to protect:



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What kind of pad? Is it really just that simple?
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Either call Steve @ Tropi-care and order from him over the phone, or find a local supplier that carries 3M or Meg's stuff and go buy it locally.

For the Meg's stuff, you need a yellow cutting pad and a tan finishing pad. you would need a cutting and a finishing pad for the 3M stuff also, but I do not know the product line well enough to make a recommendation beyond using the Ultrafina product line.

Some of the guys on here know 3M pretty well.

My first recommendation would be to call Steve @ Tropi-care http://www.tropi-care.com He can help you with what you need, and can take your order over the phone.
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Ill probably go with Meg's since its available here locally. The local paint supply store has about anything I would need. As far as pads....if I am using Meguires #80 , do I apply with the yellow pad, and re apply with the tan pad as well? Or is that for the wax?
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I love what Menzerna can do...but it isn't cheap.


I also REALLY like Prima Swirl with a smaller orange pad and LOTS of patience.
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Yea, well last time I detailed the car I did it in this order:

Wash
Went over it with 3m polish for removing light scratches/swirls
Then McGuire Deep Crystal® System Polish step 2
And McGuire Carnabu wax

Swirls were less noticeable but still there!!! I applied the Polishes using the orbital buffer with a terrycloth pad and removed with microfiber rags. Then applied wax with foam applicator pad by hand, and wiped off with microfiber after it dried a little.
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just wat i was looking for! awesome info guys!
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After reading a pretty good thread on a different site I believe Ive found what I will do.

Step 1. Wash
Step 2. Clay Bar
Step 3. MeGuires #80 Dual Action Cleaner Polish w/ W-8006 Pad at around 1800 RPMS on the buffer
Step 4. Tech Wax - 2 coats.....

w0ot cant wait to get started!
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That is correct, but I would only use the PC.
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Yeah plan on using the PC, may get a buddy to help and do the rotary buffer.

As far as pads, if I cant get the W-8006 pad form the local store, what do I need to ask for? A mild cutting pad? Is this the only pad I will need? DO I need a finishing pad?
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Nevermind, found my answer... 8006 pad for PC
If I do the rotary, use a 9006 finishing pad, since the rotary will cut more, need a less of a cutting pad.

Now, before this, how should I go about getting the current wax/polish off of the car? Or do I just wash , clay, and go at it w/ the #80?
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Originally Posted by 99Ws6302
After reading a pretty good thread on a different site I believe Ive found what I will do.

Step 1. Wash
Step 2. Clay Bar
Step 3. MeGuires #80 Dual Action Cleaner Polish w/ W-8006 Pad at around 1800 RPMS on the buffer
Step 4. Tech Wax - 2 coats.....

w0ot cant wait to get started!
Define tech wax exactly please, im looking to do the same thing as you but a car that isnt black
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are you guys using tech wax detailer the one that comes in the spray bottle?
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Originally Posted by 99Ws6302
Nevermind, found my answer... 8006 pad for PC
If I do the rotary, use a 9006 finishing pad, since the rotary will cut more, need a less of a cutting pad.

Now, before this, how should I go about getting the current wax/polish off of the car? Or do I just wash , clay, and go at it w/ the #80?

wash, clay, hit it with the #80 .. no need to worry about the current wax/sealant unless it is Zaino.


Tech wax = Meguiar's NXT Tech wax 2.0
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Gipraw hit it on the spot, NXT Tech Wax, I don't think its in a spray bottle.

Ill just wash it with dawn dish soap since it removes wax/polishes.

If I cant get a MeGuiar's 9006 pad, any other brands/colors that are similar (finishing pad) to use when applying the #80.
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heres the spray bottle im talking about

http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/imagesEdp/p84720z.jpg
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oh, yeah Ill be using the paste type, goes on thicker. Seems to me like it would protect a little better. BUt yeah, same stuff!

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._2024_31854321
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Originally Posted by 99Ws6302
oh, yeah Ill be using the paste type, goes on thicker. Seems to me like it would protect a little better. BUt yeah, same stuff!

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._2024_31854321
i gotta try that one and the ultimate detailer
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Originally Posted by Prin
Get you some Meguiars #80. Use it with the PC on 5. Then put some NXT on it to protect:





Damn me next me next!!!!!! great job


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