BlackFormula01

Will this stuff work well on a black car to remove swirls? I plan on using an orbital buffer, and want to know if I'll be doing more harm than good. I basically want to know if the Perfect It II is better than the Perfect It III. I can buy the Perfect It III for a lot cheaper, thats my only reason for question.
Thanks in advance.
Ed

Aaron's 00 TA

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Screw the orbital, get a real polisher like this:
http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...?productID=174

Don't use the wool pads either, they will put in as many swirls as you buff out. Get a backing pad and buy a foam pad(3M 5725/5723).

The II has more abrasives in it than the III does. There is a "show-car" Machine glaze that is available and may work a little better for your application.

BlackFormula01

thanks for the buffer advice, but I'd burn the paint right off. I will also look into this machine glaze. Thanks again

Aaron's 00 TA

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You won't burn the paint off. Just go slow and make sure you have plenty of compound down. It should have the same kind of rpm range as your orbital.

ZaneO

Telling a novice to go at their car with a rotary is just plain stupid.

Where are you getting these 3M products from?

Aaron's 00 TA

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I work for Sikkens Paint. Stupid? You can burn the paint with an orbital just the same. But what do I know? It isn't like I work with the stuff everyday...

PendragonZ

If anything, buy a Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher. It is THE machine for working on your cars paint. The Meguiars website has some nice videos teaching you how to use it.

Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO

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Look at my signature, you'll see what the Perfect-III product line can do with a random orbital.

ZaneO

You cannot burn the paint just the same with an orbital. I use one everyday, myself No reason to get huffy. I just don't know any professional who would recommend a novice to pick up a rotary without MANY hours of practice.

SSZSLP

I have never seen a d/a buffer burn through anything.Best of both worlds is if your "new" to the buffing thing is just get the dual action buffer and have fun.

Aaron's 00 TA

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I've seen people burn through paint with an orbital... Huffy? Looks like you attacked me first, with the "stupid" comment and the rolling eyes gesture. How do you know the guy is a beginner? Not like he asked "how do I buff my stuff?"

I never said the orbital was bad, just that there are better things out on the market. I've seen many 18yr old kids with no experience pick up a rotary and polish cars in body shops.

Blackformula, you will be happy with the 3M line of products.

ZaneO

Cool, buddy.

BlackFormula01

Thanks guys for all the help. I can get the 3m products from a local Rollie Williams Paint Spot. The only reason I can get the Perfect It III cheaper than the II is because it can come in a much smaller container... .
I think I am going to buy a Porter Cable. I have tried other buffers and have not been impressed. I am a novice to the buffing scene, but I honestly appreciated the comments from all. My original question between the III and the II originated because I didn't know if one was better for darker colored cares, or if one was more fine like polish compared to a gritttier compound.
Again thanks.
Ed

nick_s

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do you have heavy swirls like the car hasnt been taken care of for a long time?.. orjsut light stuff you can see in certain light? if its the latter- dont bother with perfect-it, just get a black foam pad and use 3m foam pad polishing glaze. works very well on black cars.

BlackFormula01

Okay, I might try that nick_s. For the most part, its just that you can see them in certain light, but there are a few that are on the heavy side. I am the type of person that generally wants to do it once and do it right, so I want somthing that will take care of as many swirls as possible.
Ed

ZaneO

If you want to do it right, you really need to invest in a Porter Cable and some nice polishes. You can't do much without it.

mics2fbodies

You must be the only one.

Aaron's 00 TA

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Lack of compound + old paint=

ZaneO

That's what you call the exception to the rule...not the norm.