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Old 01-16-2006, 07:35 AM
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Default Berger Panel...Flat Black? Gloss Black? Semi-Gloss Black?

What color are you guys painting your Berger Panels? Flat Black with clear coat, semi-gloss with clear coat? I've got a bunch of parts to take to my local painter, and need to know what color to tell him to paint the berger panel. Thanks!
Old 01-16-2006, 08:02 AM
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I like gloss black personally.
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If it's not flat it's not a true Berger panel. Project...might want to check your spelling of Berger in your sig!
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i got mine off a black Z (i used to have flat black) and the shiney panel looks 459073x better!
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Originally Posted by GETGONE
If it's not flat it's not a true Berger panel. Project...might want to check your spelling of Berger in your sig!
Berger didn't invent that look. I saw guys painting their tail panels back in '94. 1st gen big-block Camaro SS's had them painted flat black, it had nothing to do with Berger.

I have a gloss black one because it matches my painted gloss black stripe better. I had a flat black one on there for 1 week, but had several people ask me if I wrecked the car and had to put a new panel in. Funny, right?

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I realize the BB 1st gen cars had this. When people refer to it as a Berger panel, only flat paint would make it a true "Berger style" panel as that is how all theirs are done. Might just as well call it a rear blackout panel if you want to be correct about what it is. I just get annoyed with all the questions about it because I live about 25 miles from Berger and have seen over half of the cars they have done(had done since GMMG does all the work).
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Yeah, I'm at a loss for which color to use myself (white Z28). I was leaning towards flat black to be more authentic, but then I got to thinking gloss black would match the roof better. Still not really sure....I too worried that people would think it was a mismatched replacement panel. Although I'm guessing for Nine Ball a lot of that had to do with not using inserts....it looks fine but someone less into Camaros might see it as just a different color panel, but red inserts would make it look intentional.
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Originally Posted by GoldenBird
Yeah, I'm at a loss for which color to use myself (white Z28). I was leaning towards flat black to be more authentic, but then I got to thinking gloss black would match the roof better. Still not really sure....I too worried that people would think it was a mismatched replacement panel. Although I'm guessing for Nine Ball a lot of that had to do with not using inserts....it looks fine but someone less into Camaros might see it as just a different color panel, but red inserts would make it look intentional.
Satin black is the only way to go. I'm having mine painted GM restoration black. Its the satin color used for engine compartments.
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I've been thinking about this for a good 6 months. I decided to go gloss black with polished inserts. The gloss matches the roof.
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Flat black.
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If we want to get technical about it 30% gloss black is correct for Berger and the early Camaros. For those who dont know what a 30% gloss would look like, the Krylon Semi gloss is as close as you get. To be technically correct in the engine compartment you would have a variety of blacks ranging 30% to 70% in gloss. I think a lot of people couldnt tell you the difference between flat and semi gloss.

I think the gloss panel looks great to complement the stripes on nine ***** car, although you could put a green panel on that car and it would still look great. I think the semi gloss looks best but as I found out tonight there are exeptions.

Just my .02
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I put a gloss stock peice on mine to match the roof and other stuff. I think it is more what you want it to be painted as.

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Did you guys who have them take them to a paint shop or follow the instructions in the Appearance FAQ sticky?
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball


Fill that lettering in!!!
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I just did mine yesterday, and I used Semi-Gloss black from Dupli-color. Personally I think it came out exactly how I wanted it. I don't really worry what non-enthusiasts think about my car, cause people who do know cars will know why its painted like that. I will probably get lots of weird looks because my car is Onyx black, and I used the semi gloss on it.
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i got mine off of a wrecked black ss. might be the lazy way, but saved me time and it looks hella good to me. ya idk if i like the red inserts either, it came that way.

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I used flat black on mine, and went with the polished MBA letters.


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00z28, i think yours would look alot better glossy, since you have the black covers or nightshades on ur tail lights. it would match up in color alot better IMO.
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I used satin black roll bar paint with chrome inserts, this is on a white car.
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Satin Black for me. Stainless inserts. Pics are in my sig.


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