Automatic Transmission 2-Speed thru 10-Speed GM Autos | Converters | Shift Kits
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Car dies when put into D and R.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-19-2010, 04:46 PM
  #1  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Car dies when put into D and R.

Buddy of mine has my old camaro (in sig) that has a built 4l60e with a 3200 stall. Well from what he is telling me that he can start the car, but when he tried to put tranny into D it will die. Same thing with R. I am thinking it's the stall thats could be locked up. Any other ideas? Possibly the lock up solenoid in the tranny?
Old 01-19-2010, 06:33 PM
  #2  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (24)
 
382ssz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: N Canto, Ohio
Posts: 638
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Your lockup solenoid is probably stuck. It can be checked at most trans shops.
Old 01-19-2010, 06:40 PM
  #3  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (6)
 
blackhawk0251's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Im going to agree on the lockup solenoid
Old 01-19-2010, 07:02 PM
  #4  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

So i would have to take the tranny in?
Old 01-19-2010, 08:40 PM
  #5  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (25)
 
performabuilt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: BLOOMSBURG PA
Posts: 10,858
Received 78 Likes on 56 Posts

Default

Did he originally have a stock stall ? Also can he put on foot on the gas and other on the brake and keep it running ?
__________________
Built..PerformaBuilt..Tough

Call 888-744-6542


Old 01-19-2010, 09:28 PM
  #6  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by performabuilt
Did he originally have a stock stall ? Also can he put on foot on the gas and other on the brake and keep it running ?
It was my old car and i bought the stall a few years back and its a 3200. Yes he can keep his foot on gas to keep it running, but once he lets off it dies.
Old 01-20-2010, 09:03 AM
  #7  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (25)
 
performabuilt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: BLOOMSBURG PA
Posts: 10,858
Received 78 Likes on 56 Posts

Default

If he can keep it running with keeping the foot on the gas its not the converter being locked. Likley a running issue. I think a tuner needed to look at it.
__________________
Built..PerformaBuilt..Tough

Call 888-744-6542


Old 01-20-2010, 10:22 AM
  #8  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by performabuilt
If he can keep it running with keeping the foot on the gas its not the converter being locked. Likley a running issue. I think a tuner needed to look at it.
Its been tuned. Its not a tuning issue.
Old 01-20-2010, 10:27 AM
  #9  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
thunderstruck507's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northwest AR
Posts: 8,357
Received 21 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

IAC sensor/motor could have died, how does it idle when in park/neutral?
Old 01-20-2010, 10:40 AM
  #10  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
IAC sensor/motor could have died, how does it idle when in park/neutral?
It idles perfectly fine when in neutral or park. The car is at my house now, but he comes over every couple of days to start the car and lets it run for a few minutes. He even revs it up as well with no problems. Just when it goes into D or R without gas it dies. If he revs it up and pops it into D it won't die, but as soon as it he lets off the gas it will die.
Old 01-20-2010, 10:58 AM
  #11  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (25)
 
performabuilt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: BLOOMSBURG PA
Posts: 10,858
Received 78 Likes on 56 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by crAzy95Z28
Its been tuned. Its not a tuning issue.
When I say have a tuner look at it i mean thats its tuning or sensor or as mentioned IAC related its not a trans issue. If the lockup clutch was on the car would die when placed in gear reved up or not and shut down like a manual trans you poped the clutch on at idle.
__________________
Built..PerformaBuilt..Tough

Call 888-744-6542


Old 01-20-2010, 11:11 AM
  #12  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by performabuilt
When I say have a tuner look at it i mean thats its tuning or sensor or as mentioned IAC related its not a trans issue. If the lockup clutch was on the car would die when placed in gear reved up or not and shut down like a manual trans you poped the clutch on at idle.
The only way he can get into gear is by revving in N and then slamming it into D. Then if he keeps gas on it without letting off it will drive, but as soon as he comes to a light, stopsign, etc he's screwed if he lets off the gas.
Old 01-20-2010, 01:33 PM
  #13  
Launching!
iTrader: (5)
 
R3DLT1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Bartlesville,OK
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I had this similiar problem with my original transmission. It will idel great in P and N but as soon as a placed it in R or D the car would sputter a bit and shut up.

The shop i took to said the stall was locked. So i ended up getting a new tranny.
Old 01-20-2010, 09:04 PM
  #14  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (70)
 
themack56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles, California (818)
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by performabuilt
When I say have a tuner look at it i mean thats its tuning or sensor or as mentioned IAC related its not a trans issue. If the lockup clutch was on the car would die when placed in gear reved up or not and shut down like a manual trans you poped the clutch on at idle.
i agree. i believe its a tuning issue or a bad iac valve.
Old 01-21-2010, 07:54 AM
  #15  
Launching!
iTrader: (2)
 
cause4panic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

What color is the fluid?
Old 01-21-2010, 12:06 PM
  #16  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
crAzy95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston/Missouri City
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Have no gotten that far yet. Also how could it be the IAC. Wouldnt a bad IAC also run like crap in N or P?
Old 01-21-2010, 09:44 PM
  #17  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (70)
 
themack56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles, California (818)
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by crAzy95Z28
Have no gotten that far yet. Also how could it be the IAC. Wouldnt a bad IAC also run like crap in N or P?
not really. but yess in some ways. i had an iac valve stick when moving. it wouldnt go to a certain iac step. what i did is take it out. clean it with electrical parts cleaner. and closed it manually all the way down by hand. PITA. this solved my issues with iac valves. but remember your desired idle airflow for in gear in ur tune could be off. or the spark correction isnt enough.
Old 01-21-2010, 11:11 PM
  #18  
Staging Lane
 
Dyno paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Stalls in gear.

Why not jack up the rear of the car off the ground 1" . Then start up the car , put it in drive and let it run for a minute , then lightly put your foot on the brake to see if it stalls. then repete this with the parking brake. if it is an engine tune issue it should stall either way. if the TCC will not unlock without electrical disconnect (Foot brake switch) then it is stuck on , either solenoid or valve.
Old 01-22-2010, 06:13 AM
  #19  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
DannoWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Central MA
Posts: 1,473
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

First I would scan for codes (even if there is no light on the dash)

To first eliminate it as a lockup issue I would hold the rpms gently and get the car in drive and take it for a spin. Once the tranny is warmed up do you feel the lockup engage / disengage? Can you feel the looseness of the converter when you first took off? Telling if the converter is locked or not should be an easy diagnosis.

Do check/clean the IAC.

Is your heat/AC turned on? The tune could be a little off with those accessories running. I've seen lots of cammed auto's chug a bit or die at idle on a cold start when thrown in gear and say the heat is on.

I've seen this same issue before with a bad MAF, try cleaning it or replacing it.

You could try an idle relearn for ***** n' giggles.

If you tried all the above take it back to the tuner to see whats up, it should be an easy diagnoses/fix if its in the tune.
Old 01-23-2010, 12:46 PM
  #20  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (24)
 
382ssz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: N Canto, Ohio
Posts: 638
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

If the engine comes to an abrubt stop when put into drive or reverse, the converter clutch is stuck on. The IAC on the TB would have nothing to do with this. It would stumble and stall and could possibly be feathered to stay running. You can get a scanner to confirm the LU Solenoid failure, or the converter clutch is stuck on. You need a scanner with the manual solenoid control, (breakout box), where you can engage the solenoids manually without the computer involved. If you listen carefully, you can hear the solenoids clicking in the pan when you turn on and off the solenoids. My money is on the lock-up solenoid or bad converter clutch.


Quick Reply: Car dies when put into D and R.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:15 PM.