Lowest stall speed for a 228/232 cam
03-30-2011, 04:35 PM
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Lowest stall speed for a 228/232 cam My car is a Daily Driver with a 228/232 comp cam. the cam pulls on the brakes a little and is a little sluggish in the lower RPM's. It really starts to pull around 2500 RPMS am looking for a stall to correct all this,but don't want to big of a stall as I spend alot of time in bumper to bumper traffic.
Was thinking of around 2200-2800 stall, what would be the smallest I could get away with? I want to be able to keep it in low RPMS when I'm sitting on the freeway in traffic, but not pull on the brakes.
would a 2200 be too small?
This car never sees the track so I'm not worried about 1/4 times or anything like that.
Was thinking of around 2200-2800 stall, what would be the smallest I could get away with? I want to be able to keep it in low RPMS when I'm sitting on the freeway in traffic, but not pull on the brakes.
would a 2200 be too small?
This car never sees the track so I'm not worried about 1/4 times or anything like that.
03-30-2011, 04:45 PM
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I would shoot for a 3000-3200 minimum. They are even on sale.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...onverters.html
I daily drive a 3600 and wouldn't dare go smaller. For best performance/street compromise I would advise you do the same. I wouldn't even run anything smaller than 3200 on a bone stock ls1.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...onverters.html
I daily drive a 3600 and wouldn't dare go smaller. For best performance/street compromise I would advise you do the same. I wouldn't even run anything smaller than 3200 on a bone stock ls1.
03-30-2011, 04:54 PM
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Never had one of those..but I can tell you this, my 5500 slips to 2000ish to move(acceleration wise). So Id imagine a 3200-3600 wouldnt even be noticable
03-30-2011, 05:20 PM
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You never mentioned what your rearend gear ratio is.
A 2200 is so close to the OEM 1800,you wouldn't see/feel a difference.
A stall is nothing more than 'slippage vs. resistance'.
With my OEM 3.23s',when I put in a TCI 2800,the car would no longer want to move/creep forward at idle. When I put in 4.56s',that TCI 2800 wanted to allow move/creep at idle because the driveline(forward of the gears) had a better mechanical advantage over the vehicle.
If you're running stock gears,you could get away with a 3000.
I realize that most are gonna say go big AND I agree,but keeping it only to your question of not wanting car to 'creep' at idle and not wanting high rpm to get car moving in traffic,a 3000 would accomplish that.
Don't go 'cheap', Yank,CircleD and ?(others will chime in for brand) are good.
You put in a 2800-3000 and after a while,you'll wanna go more,always happens.
A 2200 is so close to the OEM 1800,you wouldn't see/feel a difference.
A stall is nothing more than 'slippage vs. resistance'.
With my OEM 3.23s',when I put in a TCI 2800,the car would no longer want to move/creep forward at idle. When I put in 4.56s',that TCI 2800 wanted to allow move/creep at idle because the driveline(forward of the gears) had a better mechanical advantage over the vehicle.
If you're running stock gears,you could get away with a 3000.
I realize that most are gonna say go big AND I agree,but keeping it only to your question of not wanting car to 'creep' at idle and not wanting high rpm to get car moving in traffic,a 3000 would accomplish that.
Don't go 'cheap', Yank,CircleD and ?(others will chime in for brand) are good.
You put in a 2800-3000 and after a while,you'll wanna go more,always happens.
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03-30-2011, 07:14 PM
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I suggest any less than 3200 would be a waste of money and time, your gears would make some differance, I ran Yank ST 3500 2.2/ STR on the street for 6-7 years, now running Yank SS 4000/2.6 STR. Get a good brand name ( as stated I like Yank) One of my sons tried off brand and the first one ran great for 180,000 miles and the OE trans needed 3-4 clutch pack ( OE trans had 210,000 HARD miles at this point) We replaced the trans with a New GM trans and returned the tc TO MAKER cleaning and rebuild
( yes we flushed all lines and cooler, afer install the off brand TC came a part and wiped out the NEW GM trans, at only 4.000. We replaced with a NEW GM trans and after good luck with the FIRST TC (same off brand) we bought another New TC ( same OFF BRAND, flushed cooled and all lines, this NEW off brand ( same brand ) came apart inside and threw shaving into the second new gm trans. i know major brand come apart allso, but I suggest try to get the best you can
what ever brand you buy use a good cooler
good luck,Johnny
( yes we flushed all lines and cooler, afer install the off brand TC came a part and wiped out the NEW GM trans, at only 4.000. We replaced with a NEW GM trans and after good luck with the FIRST TC (same off brand) we bought another New TC ( same OFF BRAND, flushed cooled and all lines, this NEW off brand ( same brand ) came apart inside and threw shaving into the second new gm trans. i know major brand come apart allso, but I suggest try to get the best you can
what ever brand you buy use a good cooler
good luck,Johnny
03-30-2011, 10:18 PM
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I agree with the rest. I used to be the same as you a cuple years ago. Your really need to listen to the advice above. Not to be mean, but it is kinda dumb to put a cam like that in with a small stall because you will really not gain anything. I have a circle d 3400 stall and yea it has to rev a little bit more to move, but it is not much different than stock. A stall will make it so much more fun to drive. Circle d has a good budget 3200 stall converter for like $400. And it looks like yank has some really good deals going now from the looks of the post above by thunderstruck. You should call and ask what the prices are. They make great converters. You will regret going under 3000 stall I gurantee that.
03-30-2011, 10:45 PM
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a 3200 stall is as low i would go. If you go smaller your going to be dissapointed and it would almost be a waste. I had a 3200 vig and daily drove my car 60 miles a day in bumper to bumper traffic and had no complaints except i wanted a bigger stall after a while lol
03-31-2011, 10:52 AM
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i have a circle d 3600 with a 228/230 cam and 3.73 gears. i think its perfect for the street.when i had the 3.23 gears i thought it was a little too much stall for the street, but the gear change to the 3.73's helped keep the rpm's down for regular street driving. everyone has a different idea of what a perfect converter for the street is. if your worried about too much rpm to get the car moving then go with a 3000-3200 stall. your best bet would be to contact chris at circle d and tell him your goals and let him know what kind of drivability your looking for. he helped me out with choosing a converter and hit the nail on the head, it's perfect! (for me)
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