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Old 09-21-2011, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by slow67
Max out the all the misfires tables in Engine Diagnostics. It should lock, even with the plug wire burnt.
But it won't detect misfires anymore, right?
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Originally Posted by Vetal
Turned these codes off (after comparing to couple of other files I found). Now TC still doesn't lock because PCM senses misfires. I found one my spark plug wire is bad, maybe this is the cause. Damn, another 2 weeks wait time no one stocks LS1 parts here
edit: HPTuners did the segment swap
You cant find a plug wire from any camaro/gto/transam/truck/van/vette/etc from 1997-2012 anywhere? Man, your parts stores suck
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
You cant find a plug wire from any camaro/gto/transam/truck/van/vette/etc from 1997-2012 anywhere? Man, your parts stores suck
I thought LS1 wires are somewhat unique, no?
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All 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.2, 7.0 lsx wires are more or less interchangeable, they are all more or less the same length and size.
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Originally Posted by Vetal
I suspected low oil level but check it 3 times already, it's even a bit more than normal.
Here's daylight video I took today, you can see that at 1600 in 1st it barely starts to move
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqUT6IUBWo

P.S. My TC doesn't want to lockup, only did it twice on a trip on a hot day, I read a bit and some people write it wouldn't lock until tranny fluid warms up to a certain temp, but I couldn't find such a parameter in HPTuners. How do you manually lock TC? Do you tap into S ("TCC Control" wire)? And, is there 12V or ground?
Though you may have solved your lockup issues, I will say lockup does have a minimum engine temperature before its allowed. I have seen faulty coolant sensors cause lockup issues on GM vehicles and I have seen regular lockup not take place while driving with a cold engine.

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Does anyone have a link to driving stall videos that were in stickies but unavailable anymore?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedi...uge-shots.html
Old 09-21-2011, 10:26 AM
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No, didn't solve them yet as I don't want to completely wipe off misfire tables other than for a test, I want them functional
Thanks for the vids!
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i know mine wont lockup my 4l60e converter til it hits the first mark... and i mean AS SOON as it touches it it will jolt into lockup lol. and mine would lock and unlock when i forst put it in, then i wiped the misfire tables and all my issues are gone. im following all the 80e build threads on here cause im swapping my T56 camaro over to a 80e. kind of a bastard child. 94 Z28/03 LQ4/02 wiring pinned for a 94 fuse block/ and a truck 80e connector lol
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I have an aftermarket coolant gauge on mine and when I drive it cold (which I usually don't) it will hit lockup as the gauge clicks 113, anything below that and its unlocked. As I cruise at 50 and it hits 113, lockup happens instantly. So it definitely has a temperature minimum for lockup to happen.
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OK test turned out to be performed quite easily - I just unplugged MAF intending to check VE tuning, and TC locks as it should, due to apparent absence of misfire detection in SD mode. So I need to read on desensitizing misfire tables a bit, I guess?
P.S. How do I make TC lock softer? Due to loose converter I like to lock early in 4th, but due to big drop in RPM lockup is very firm...
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Lockup should always be firm with a good converter. There is no way to soften it.
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Emmm, no Actually, it was very comfortable with stock duty cycle table
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The TC clutch is not designed to slip. If it is, then you're killing the clutch.
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No clutch is designed to slip. Still, I don't sidestep my clutches on every gear change. No one does. Yet clutches last for tens of thousands of miles.
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It will last longer with a firmer lockup (as long as the rpm drop isn't too great). I'd recommend tuning it to feel like another shift.
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When mine locks it feels like it just shifted into 5th. The only time my 4400 Edge is really noticeable is on initial acceleration from a stop.
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You see, here's the problem... I don't want to be sounding like jet fighter going at 2300rpm at just 35mph, so I want to use TC locking feature. But then rpm drop is so "big" that car jumps pretty hard. I'm sure it's not good on the tranny and TC clutch itself...
Is there any bad in going to stock min duty (50-75%) at TPS below 13%?
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Why not set it to lock that low at 5% throttle and let off the go pedal? it will lock then.

Also maybe try locking in 3rd (rpm drop wont be as big
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Vetal as weird as it sounds, the firmer the application of any of the clutches in the tranny the longer the clutches will last. That slip your feeling when you soften the shift up is the clutches slipping against each other reducing the amount of material available the next time you want it to slip. Although it may take a while to show itself(months, years, ....) the firmer the shift the better it is for your clutches and the less it is for your spine and neck
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In HPTuners, you can adjust the TCC Apply/Release speed. Maybe something you might wanna look into to suit your driving style.
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Update: still combating TC lockup. I've desensitized misfire tables by 2X and now it doesn't want to lock and I see this code appear:
[PCM] P0530 - A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit Malfunction
Seems like any least relevant malfunction disables TC lockup - creepy...


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