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Old 12-15-2011, 09:35 AM
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Default 2800 stall, noticeable difference from stock?? got it cheap! opinions!!!

alright guys...ive seen a few threads where everyone says go with a 3600-4000 nothing smaller...if i had the money right now id put in a 4000 no questions asked...but i came up on a 2800 for pretty cheap...i just want to know if theres a noticeable difference than stock...i mean its gotta be better than stock right??
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What brand is it?
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since your rear gears aren't indicated in your sig,assume you're stock,either 2.73s' or 3.23s'.
Only change you'll notice is that it won't pull against the brakes when stopped.
I had a 2800 w/3.23s',slightly more 'lively' on the street,no change in 1/4 results over the OEM convertor.
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OEM is 1800 so there should b a difference but how much u wont know until u try it but your car will come out of the hole in a higher RPM which will b making more HP & Torque !
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^^ I have a PI 2800 and cut a 1.84 60' on street tires with 2.73's
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I hate to hear anyone cheaping out on a converter. What converter? Used? Dude if I were you I would just buy a yank no less than 3600. I went 3600 and I love it but theres no doubt I could do 4000. Even before I had a stall I would never consider 2800. I would never buy a cheap one either. **** I wouldnt even buy a used one.
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Originally Posted by Broke98z28
alright guys...ive seen a few threads where everyone says go with a 3600-4000 nothing smaller...if i had the money right now id put in a 4000 no questions asked...but i came up on a 2800 for pretty cheap...i just want to know if theres a noticeable difference than stock...i mean its gotta be better than stock right??
I have a Revmax 2800 in my 98 Z28 and it is Good for ME! What i notice is that I will rev to about 3000 rpm's to get a smooth shift change going thru the gears. It Feels like I have a little more power. When i take my foot off the brake the car does not want to move as much as it did with the stock converter. I get 27 mpg on the highway...I like that as this is my DD. People say they wouldn't do this and you need to do that blah blah blah B.S. Do what you like. I personally could not stand to drive a car with a 3600 stall. I don't want to Race from street corner to street corner. If you want to rev your car and race all around town then by all means go with a High Stall. Hope this Answers YOUR Question.
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Originally Posted by LS1121
If you want to rev your car and race all around town then by all means go with a High Stall.
Why else would we buy these cars???
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Different people want their cars to act in the way THEY want it to. Just because the majority want that performance/slippage. of a higher stall,doesn't mean everyone wants that. I had a 2800,now I got a 3600,I liked both but I wanted a step up in performance. I had the 2800 in for 5 years and was satisfied. The tranny had to be replaced so since it was coming out,I put a 3600 in
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waste of time
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When my trans comes out again a pt4000 or something like it will be going in and street driving that sob hell yea.
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Originally Posted by LS1121
I have a Revmax 2800 in my 98 Z28 and it is Good for ME! What i notice is that I will rev to about 3000 rpm's to get a smooth shift change going thru the gears. ... If you want to rev your car and race all around town then by all means go with a High Stall. Hope this Answers YOUR Question.
I can easily get up to speed faster than traffic at under 2500rpm with my 3600 stall.

I don't understand why so many people on this site assume a quality 3600 converter is going to be revving to over 3k to move all the time unless they have been using some serious junk converters.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
I can easily get up to speed faster than traffic at under 2500rpm with my 3600 stall.

I don't understand why so many people on this site assume a quality 3600 converter is going to be revving to over 3k to move all the time unless they have been using some serious junk converters.
I get Lock Up Quicker, is that hard to understand?
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Not sure exactly what you mean by that, lockup is based on tune settings for throttle percentage and MPH.
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agree it 'thunderstruck507' post #12 "I don't understand why so many people on this site assume a quality 3600 converter is going to be revving to over 3k to move all the time".
Typically a number/value assigned to a convertor is regarded as it's 'flash' rpm.
The OEM 1800 flashes to 1800(video recorded tach on a strip run),but doesn't take 1800 rpm to get the car moving in everyday life.
A TCI2800 I had flashed to 2800 but acted like the OEM 1800 in everyday driving.
The Yank SS3600,currently in,flashes to 3600 and is fine in everyday driving.
ONLY when I WANT that extra '? power' it comes into play.
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You should notice something but thats really mild for an LS1...I have a 3600 and i think its mild.
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Originally Posted by senicalj4579
When my trans comes out again a pt4000 or something like it will be going in and street driving that sob hell yea.
U Do know u can send your converter back to Yank and the can restall it to a 4000 Stall right ?
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When people blurt out "You need a XXXX stall" without taking both a serious look at the car's complete setup and discussing to at least some length the purpose and intended use of the car... it's just ignorant, nearly worthless advice. Also, bear in mind that the advertised stall speed rating of a converter is just a reference. Put the exact same converter in two different vehicles with different torque output and different weight, etc. and the converter will act a bit differently in each vehicle. When selecting a converter, talk to the manufacturer and discover how they determine their stall speed ratings. Tell them what power you put the ground, vehicle weight, gears, etc. and they will help determine what actual stall speed (roughly) you are looking at.
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Originally Posted by TWS
When people blurt out "You need a XXXX stall" without taking both a serious look at the car's complete setup and discussing to at least some length the purpose and intended use of the car... it's just ignorant, nearly worthless advice.
Agreed to a point but the stock converter is so conservative even for a bone stock car that it needs a pretty healthy jump to catch up IMO.

I drove a cammed car on the stock stall for a year because I was afraid of the consequences of a large stall. When I finally put in the Yank 3600 I felt like a retard for waiting and I would have had deep regrets about any smaller both due to the costs, time, and decreased benefits involved.


I paid extra attention driving the car over the weekend and I could keep up with all traffic around town at as little as 1800rpms. The highest I saw during normal driving was on a steep hill and that was 2300rpm to keep up with traffic/speed limit.

I just want people to understand a quality 3600 converter is not "revving to the moon all the time" in daily driver use. On the highway any lockup converter is going to be the same. Stock to 4400 stall will lock and cruise the same (a smaller lighter aftermarket converter however might still subtly increase MPG due to less wasted energy).
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Originally Posted by blk/slvr02ss
U Do know u can send your converter back to Yank and the can restall it to a 4000 Stall right ?
Really? I wasnt sure on that. Hmmmm. Is it up to a year though? Its been 7 months. I would need to get a move on if its only a year


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