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Old 02-12-2012, 09:09 AM
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Im looking at the 224r cam from texas speed and why do i have to change my stall?? i dont get the reason for it. can someone please help me
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higher stall speed can bring your power band in faster , im not sure on that cam i havent viewed the specs and what flow matched heads perform best with it. But a stall change would only change you performance aspects
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Stall before cam imo. You will notice a greater difference when you get around to putting that cam in after the stall, really wakes up the car.
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You should do a search on this topic. There are dozens of threads that cover this topic extensively. You will be able to find enough reading to last you all day.

Here is a good place to start, getting the basics covered first:

http://www.converter.cc/FAQ_s/45.htm

I would also suggest doing a search on this in our auto trans section.
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The stock stall sucks..... A aftermarket one is better in every way. If you get a good stall like coan, vig., or yank(ify if i like yank or not) it will feel stock in regular driving conditions. It is better from a roll and much better from a dig. They are not hard at all to install once the tranny is out. The reason they say get a stall is that the cam you will lose power in the 1000 rpm -2500 rpm with that cam. Then with the aftermarket stall it locks up better so even feels better in the lower rpm ranges. Then you will be in your power band from a dig with a 3k stall. Yes you can go with out one but your car will not perform as well as it could. Hope this helped
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a stall is one of the best upgrades for an auto car. a high quality one will feel like stock and wake your car up noticeably.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
a stall is one of the best upgrades for an auto car. a high quality one will feel like stock and wake your car up noticeably.
LOL not if you get a big one
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Do you, or do you not, want more rear wheel torque and to spend more
of your time down-track at peak HP?

If you said no, you can skip the cam too.
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Originally Posted by desertLS1
LOL not if you get a big one
how big are you talking?
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okay thanks guys but with that cam what stall speed should i go?? i mostly cruise around and once a month i go to the dragway or circuits.
thank you
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Go with atleast a 3400 or even a 3600. I went with the Yank2800 but I ment to order the 3600 and wished I would have returned it for the 3600. The reason for a converter is to whined the motor up to 3000plus RPM(what ever stall you go with) where your motor makes the most HP than it shifts to first gear than takes off like a bat out of hell! Also if you have a aggressive choppy cam you going to need the torque converter your motor will keep stalling out due to the aggresive cam. So it basicallly whines the motor up where it makes the most Horse power than shift into first gear. I would go with atleast yank 3400 or 3600. If you rarly drive your car it would'nt hurt to go with a yank 4000 usually if you have a really aggresive cam
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ok with the 3600 is it still driveable in the city and highway??
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Yes, but driveability can rely on a tune as well
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tune getting done right after i do the cam i dont want problems with anything
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A guy tunes cars in stl where i live. He tuned a 900 hp shelby cobra with poly motor mounts and the suspension and the car shakes none. He also did mine with the same results. It shakes barley more than stock. He is in the process of tuning my suspension to try to reduce raising the front wheeels. He also tuned the pcm after all of my mods.
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When you cam a car 95% of the time your going to have to raise the idle. When you do that with a stock converter it tends to want to push through the brakes.

Not to mention the car will be a complete roach...
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Yes i think even 220/220 cams need the idle up 100 rpms
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
a stall is one of the best upgrades for an auto car. a high quality one will feel like stock and wake your car up noticeably.
My ss3600 must not be high quality because it dosent feel like stock
Its ok though I know you used the wrong choice of wording lol

OP get a 3600-4000. I like my yank ss3600 alot. It got me into the 11s stock internal without all boltons. Im looking to do heads and cam this year and my tuner believes ill be doing 10s with a very DD friendy setup
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Originally Posted by custombluebird
ok with the 3600 is it still driveable in the city and highway??
Under normal driving the ss3600 is unlocked anywhere under 38mph. 38mph it locks up and the rpms are back to stock.
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What are your mods are your going to be mods?


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