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Old 11-24-2013, 01:12 PM
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Default Rebuilt 60e slips 2nd in high rpm

My 4l60e in my firebird was just build by me and an experienced builder. It's been fine for 2 months, but just today I noticed it slipping when it gets high in the rpm but only 2nd gear. The weather just turned cold, but the trans temp was around 140. I have noticed that it will not chirp second gear like it used to also.

It has a new drum and wide carbon band, would a shift kit or longer servo help out?
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i would check the travel of the servo, the 2-4 band might be starting to wear and slip, also check the line pressure.. do you have factory servos or billet servos?
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Factory servo, it's a brand new wide carbon band i hope it isn't wearing. Would the transgo hd2 shift kit apply the band a little better to keep it from slipping? The slipping just started today, ill go easy untill I find a fix.
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Silly question. But did u put the wide drum in wit the wide 2-4 band?
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Originally Posted by monte383sbc
Silly question. But did u put the wide drum in wit the wide 2-4 band?
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There isn't a wider reverse drum. It is just highly recommended to use a brand new reverse drum when switching to a wide 2-4 band.
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
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There isn't a wider reverse drum. It is just highly recommended to use a brand new reverse drum when switching to a wide 2-4 band.
Oooo opps yes this is tru. I read it wrong on the patc transmission website lol. But this can be the op's problem that he could have used the wide band on the old drum
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The drum is new.
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You can check the servo end play by pressing on the cover with a crowbar. The end play should be .075 to .125 or about 1/16 to 1/8".

Another relatively simple thing to check is the 1-2 accumulator for a cracked piston. The stock plastic piston should not be reused - get an aluminum one instead.

As monte383sbc suggests, post the type of servos. Your experience builder should be able to check line pressure too. Was a larger boost valve installed?
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
You can check the servo end play by pressing on the cover with a crowbar. The end play should be .075 to .125 or about 1/16 to 1/8".

Another relatively simple thing to check is the 1-2 accumulator for a cracked piston. The stock plastic piston should not be reused - get an aluminum one instead.

As monte383sbc suggests, post the type of servos. Your experience builder should be able to check line pressure too. Was a larger boost valve installed?
No large boost valve, we used the plastic pistons.
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Any idea if the transgo could firm up everything and keep it from slipping? I think it would be a good mod regardless
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Just a bigger boost valve would be a good mod. While the Transgo HD2 kit has one, the Sonnax one is available by itself and is often better because it seals with o-rings.
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
Just a bigger boost valve would be a good mod. While the Transgo HD2 kit has one, the Sonnax one is available by itself and is often better because it seals with o-rings.
I figured if I'm down there, I might as well do as much as I can. Such as aluminum accumulator pistons and the hd2 kit.
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Definitely switch to the aluminum accumulator pistons; two transmissions I bought off CL has cracked pistons.



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