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#2
The reason why is because I want to turbo my 4.8 down the road and make some decent power. Before everyone yells 80e, id rather not have to do fab work because i dont have experience in welding or the tools..
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#10
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This does not mean their transmissions are absolutely identical, and certainly not like a mass-production rebuilder. First, RPM, Performabuilt (PB) and Finish Line (FLT) build each ordered transmission to spec, one at a time. While they probably use slightly different parts, the assembly details and custom modifications are probably a bit different. For example, FLT re-machines each pump for perfect rotor surfaces; I don't know if PB and RPM do that, but mass-production rebuilders certainly do not, nor does a local builder likely do that. The separator plates are drilled a bit differently to give the "shift feel" each builder thinks is best. Some drill the input drum for better high RPM operation, some drill a few hard parts for better oiling, etc.
There is a lot more art to rebuilding a trans than just slapping a bunch of parts together. Another difference between the sponsors and the cheap mass-rebuilders is that the sponsors won't reuse a questionable existing part, while the mass rebuilders use everything that isn't obviously broken and hope for the best (meaning it breaks after the warranty). For example, when FLT rebuilds a trans that had a hard-part failure, they replace both planets because there might be metal fragment hidden within the internal bearings. That adds $120+ in cost but makes them more reliable long term. RPM and PB probably do the same.
You wont't go wrong with any of these three companies. Don't overthink it.
#12
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Yes, for higher levels more expensive parts from GM and Sonnax are used - for example 5-pinion planetaries from GM, input drum reinforcement from Sonnax or even the $500 Sonnax input drum. Billet input/output shafts cost $300 each and even then may require additional machining by the builder.
They typically list all the special parts on their specs sheet/website, and the cost of them is typically about equal to the increase in the price for higher levels.
All these sponsors are just making an honest living; their is only modest profit in each transmission. None of them are driving around in Ferraris with arm candy.
In short, each sponsor will give you excellent value and a more reliable trans than you are likely to get from anyone else.
They typically list all the special parts on their specs sheet/website, and the cost of them is typically about equal to the increase in the price for higher levels.
All these sponsors are just making an honest living; their is only modest profit in each transmission. None of them are driving around in Ferraris with arm candy.
In short, each sponsor will give you excellent value and a more reliable trans than you are likely to get from anyone else.
#13
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Is fitting an 80e really that difficult in a truck? I figured if I could fit one in my firebird with hardly any modifications, it would fall into a truck.
I'll be that guy that yells 80e. Get yourself a stage 15 4L60E and still worry about it. Your truck is heavy more than likely, you want to go turbo... That is a shoe in for an 80e.
I'll be that guy that yells 80e. Get yourself a stage 15 4L60E and still worry about it. Your truck is heavy more than likely, you want to go turbo... That is a shoe in for an 80e.
#17
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I would strongly recommend you look at what both the TBSS (http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/4l7...smission-help/) and Performance Truck sites have to say before deciding to go with a 4L60E-based trans in a heavy vehicle. Many folks are divided on the matter. Personally, I tried an RPM trans in my TBSS and it just didn't hold up past 6000 miles. I should have done a 4L80E conversion from the outset.
#19
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While I don't agree with AutomagicLS1, I would also suggest a 4L80E for any turbo application and even any performance application where the slightly larger size and weight of the 4L80E is not a big issue. Not sure if you mentioned having a truck, but I would also suggest a 4L80E for any truck due to its weight and plenty of space for the trans.