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Old 05-05-2005, 02:17 PM
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I read Derty's article, but didn't see it in there. Tried to do a search too

I have a '99 Z28 that was an M6. What wires and where are gonna need to be messed with to get this thing to start. Thanks!

Reverse lights? Clutch engagement switch?

How can I go about this and make sure it's NHRA/IHRA legal?

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To make sure it is NHRA legal you just need a reverse lockout and neutral safety switch which you tie into the new shifter and the ignition circuit.
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Now how do I got about doing that with a B&M Pro Stick? hahaha. Where are the wires I need to tie in to? B&M Pro Stick on summit's site says it doesn't come with a neutral safety switch.
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my bm pro ratchet came with both switches.
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That is why I went with the rachet. It comes with both switches
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the pro stick comes with the neutral switch and you can buy the microswitch for reverse lights if you want it.

on th stock NSS connector:

orange/black and Black/white are for the hatch release and letting the PCM know the car is in drive/reverse. No place to hook this up on an aftermarket shifter.

purple/white and DARK green are for the neutral safety switch.

brown and LIGHT green are for the reverse lights.
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thanks guys.

where is that NSS connector? I'm probably just being stupid, but gotta ask to make sure

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plugs into the RH side of the stock shifter, NSS = nuetral safety switch. Only plug there with those 6 colored wires on it
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hahaha, i'm gonna have to look for that thing. don't know if i saw it with my 6speed car
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oops, didnt notice you had an M6 - my fault Most people usually ask about A4 wiring and I just ASSumed you had an A4 without reading.

You need to use the two wires from the clutch pedal switch and run them to the nuetral safety switch on the shifter, forget the colors but its the only two wire switch on the clutch pedal I think.

The reverse light switch/wires is down on the trans on a M6.

For some reason I thought you had an A4 car - sorry about that.
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Originally Posted by kp
You need to use the two wires from the clutch pedal switch and run them to the nuetral safety switch on the shifter, forget the colors but its the only two wire switch on the clutch pedal I think.

The reverse light switch/wires is down on the trans on a M6.

For some reason I thought you had an A4 car - sorry about that.
I've done a few M6-A3/A4...A4-M6 swaps but always in a rush I've never had time to finish the wiring completly. What I was planning on doing if I ever get around to it, is mounting a relay where the M6 clutch start switch connector is and having the microswitch on the shifter activating that relay kinda like a N20 setup. You would only have to run 1 small wire to the relay as the other side would be a ground. Reverse is very simple just have to extend the wiring a few inches and run it through a rubber grommet (or the old M6 shifter boot. )
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so with those wires, as long as it completes the circuit, it's alright, no special color needing to go on a certain side correct?
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Reverse is on or off so don't matter. The clutch switch shouldn't matter either, but not exactly sure as I read a post where someone said it wouldn't start one way but would when he swapped it around. 2 wires on both so it should be a no-brainer once the wiring itself is run.
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it doesnt matter, they are both just on/off switches. Just hook up both wires to switch on the shifter and it will work, doesnt matter which wire goes on which side of the switch.
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Originally Posted by -Joseph-
I've done a few M6-A3/A4...A4-M6 swaps but always in a rush I've never had time to finish the wiring completly. What I was planning on doing if I ever get around to it, is mounting a relay where the M6 clutch start switch connector is and having the microswitch on the shifter activating that relay kinda like a N20 setup. You would only have to run 1 small wire to the relay as the other side would be a ground. Reverse is very simple just have to extend the wiring a few inches and run it through a rubber grommet (or the old M6 shifter boot. )
Yea, its no big deal to just extend the two wires though, little easier to explain if something happens if the car doesnt crank if you just extend the wires

On an A4 car though the proper way to do it would be to use a DPDT relay and hook up the orange/black on one N/C pole and the purple white/DK green on the other N/O pole and ground the relay with the NSS on the shifter. That way the car will start and the PCM will know if the car is in gear, the hatch release will work (and not work in gear like it was designed). That is if the relay is powered from something that doesnt turn off when the key is in the start position



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