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I don't get the stall torque converter. Why would you want your camaro to wait until 3200 rpm to come to life? I want mine to open up as soon as I hit the accelerator. Just doesn't make sense...............

Scotty-Z

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Well let me tell you a little about a stall then.

An aftermarket higher stall will raise the point at which your RPMs jump when you nail the throttle. Stock is about 1800, meaning that when you put the pedal to the floor from a stop, you'll go around 1800 and start raising. With a higher stall, it will take more pedal when just driving around town (you'll have to give it more gas to get it going), but this doesn't mean that the car doesn't move until you get to that point. Say you have a stock SS and you add a 3500 stall. When you put it to the floor from a stop, or anytime, it will jump to that 3500 (instead of 1800) and start pulling. Also, you'll have better "shift extension". Instead of your revs falling so far between shift changes, they'll stay right up in your powerband, therefore allowing you to keep pulling hard.

So when you say "I want mine to open up as soon as I hit the accelerator", don't worry, it will! Likely if you're under 25-30 mph, you'll put it to the floor and spin the hell out of the tires for a bit.

SmokingWS6

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Yup, not only will you open up, but it'll open up 4x as hard.

do a search on how torque converts work, peoples results, there are even videos. There's hundreds of write-ups. 99% of the automatic cars you see on here running big 1/4 times have aftermarket converters.

blue2000Z28

hmm...well if you want your car to come to life as soon as you hit the accelerator, get a stall......lets put it like this...right now you put your foot too the floor and your car climbs slightly...right?? I mean it pulls good, and all that other blah blah blah, but to you it is fast......put a 4000 stall in there, put your foot to the floor and tell me it is not the fastest thing you have been in.....even if it is not...trust me, you will be like...uh...holly ****

99ssleeper

iTrader: (98)

How long does it take to rev to 3200 rpm? .25 seconds? maaaybe...

Get a stall.

Roarin_8

iTrader: (5)

Get a stall, cooler and TIRES. Can't stress tires enough. The stockers will SCREAM!!

jimmyblue

iTrader: (11)

The converter is not "digital", all-or-nothing.

I have a 3000RPM stall speed and level cruise
at 30MPH is ~ 1500RPM in 3rd. I can climb hills
at 2000RPM (Florida hills, anyway).

The low-torque, low-pedal coupling "slope"
varies with the stall torque ratio. It is more
abrupt, but further out, with a higher STR.

00firebird

iTrader: (3)

so these are some of the great benefits of stalls... whats bad about them in a daily driver?

TA4U2NV

iTrader: (1)

Well, virtually nothing, except that you'll hafta give your car more gas to get it going under average acceleration. Nothing that you won't get used to over a week.

Scotty-Z

iTrader: (5)

-increased revs eats gas a little bit
-if you hammer it and don't have good tires, you're going to blow your street tires off with ease
-Your exhaust will sound louder because you'll be turning more revs
- extra wear and tear on the tranny
-more chance of breaking the rear end if you get a really solid launch

The Sad

iTrader: (8)

I haven't found any bad effects in a daily driver with my 3200 (I wish it were higher)

I suppose heat build up would be the worst problem (get a cooler)

Scotty-Z

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Yeah, a cooler is a MUST. Go for the B&M 24,000 gvw one, it's only about $54. If you don't use one, the extra heat will eat your transmission alive.

blkZ28spt

Why would you want to be stuck at a low rpm where it hardly makes any power, and have it drop so many rpm's when shifts? Just doesn't make any sense. A converter will make the car take of SOOOOOOOOOO much stronger and quicker.

RevGTO

iTrader: (12)

The major benefit in daily driving is that the converter keeps the revs up in the torque band, eliminating the "dead spot" after the 1-2 shift where it lugs as you wait for the rpms to spool up and make power. Even at 1/4 throttle with my small 3000 converter, the torque is right there after the 1-2 shift. Very satisfying in every day driving.

corvet786c

iTrader: (6)

Very Good Info Guys I am thinking about getting the Yank 3600 SS. I have a 2002 WS6 A4. With all this power from a torque converter, the competition better watch out.Also Should I get the Nittos 275 40 17. Or New Firestone extra wide tires.

rufretic

iTrader: (37)

Get a drag radial or your going to go off roading with that converter. Even with BFG drag radials and my vig 3800, I could break the tires loose any time I wanted. Its fun sometimes but with an average street tire it could be dangerous.

blkZ28spt

Get some Nittos. (NT555-R drag radials)

elderon

Even with drag radials your still gonna spin on the street most of the time. If its a stickier street and you heat em up with a burnout you may hook decently though.

Otherwise if you punch it from a stop your liable to get the 1 to 2 to 1 to 2 shift game - which I'm sure several here are familiar with. You floor it, the tires spin all the way up to redline and it shifts to 2nd - all while the car isn't actually moving all that fast. Then once it hits 2nd it gets traction, the rpms go down and the car "realizes" its rpms are too low under WOT for 2nd gear and it drops down to first gear again and now you probably have traction and it stays in 1st until red and shifts to 2nd again etc. Its a really crappy launch, but a side effect of bad traction and WOT at launch.

blkZ28spt

It's really not that hard to control. I basically never go 1-2-1-2. When you have a high stall conveter (esp with more power than stock) you don't just put the pedal to the floor from a dead stop. It's not too hard to learn enough throttle control to ease it to the floor as traction allows. Immediately start off at about half throttle and increase it until you are at the floor at the top of first gear.

elderon

I probably should have mentioned that. Yes I have learned how not to do that.
But when I first got the converter I did that all the time!