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Old 09-09-2006, 07:05 PM
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Mine never hit as hard as I'd like(3400/2.1STR), the first time I ordered they sent me out an LS1 converter, then they slapped one together for me and it wont lock up like it supposed to. With my new cam I was also wanting a larger stall, and I am thinking 3600-4000. What brand do you guys suggest? Yank or Vig and why?

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yank

screw fuddle
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fuddle

screw yank
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I have the same converter. It sucks. I will send it back when I get feeling motivated enough to take it out.
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Originally Posted by spy2520
fuddle

screw yank
I put my YANK up against any Fuddle converter! Period!
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You get what you pay for...I am switching back to Yank from a Vig. 1 reason is my Trans just broke & I want to go back to Yank. Had good luck with the old school ST3500...
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Yank FTW. I hear fuddle converters kill your top end
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Yank FTW. I hear fuddle converters kill your top end
yes they do....my car only runs 126 mph in the 1/8th.
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A 2.1 STR is not going to hit hard, period.

Your lockup problem is possibly fixable in the misfire
settings.
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Originally Posted by spy2520
fuddle

screw yank

sure...
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Originally Posted by Dan
You get what you pay for...I am switching back to Yank from a Vig. 1 reason is my Trans just broke & I want to go back to Yank. Had good luck with the old school ST3500...
Currently running a PT4000, but had a ST3500 before it.....I absolutely loved that thing. It was great for a street/strip combo, cut mid 1.6's on 17" Nittos w only bolt-ons, full weight.

Hark_Z, I'd definately look into a Yank SS3600-4000.
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Originally Posted by Dan
You get what you pay for...I am switching back to Yank from a Vig. 1 reason is my Trans just broke & I want to go back to Yank. Had good luck with the old school ST3500...
What does the trans breaking have to do with theTC? What let go in the trans? 4L60E's are not made to abuse you know.

To the poster, why did you order a 3400 2.1 if you wanted a hard hitting loose TC?
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All this talk about the ST 3500 makes me feel good. I haven't been able to get it to the track yet.....waiting on a new tranny, tune and Nittos. But I do love it on the street.
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Originally Posted by 98A4LS1
What does the trans breaking have to do with theTC? What let go in the trans? 4L60E's are not made to abuse you know.

To the poster, why did you order a 3400 2.1 if you wanted a hard hitting loose TC?
Because I was stupid and didnt do enough research.

My Fuddle didnt pull up high well compared to my friends Vig 3200 I noticed. I have searched but can someone just break it down to me, lower STR means it hits harder or how exactly does that work? My car is a weekend car that will see occasional track time, so all out performance is important. I do not want to go the cheap route this time and I am seriously looking into Yank converters now. Not sure what the PT/SS is and what I would need, (I assume SS =street/strip, PT=?) So as mentioned I am looking for a 3600-4000, I know alot of people run the SS3600 and are happy. Even though the stalls themselves might be different sizes, I am learning that they have very diff characteristics between 3600-4000 with Yanks product line. As my Fuddle goes.. I heard John has been in the hospital but I understand they have very understanding customer service and many people receive full refunds with them. I guess I'll have to check into it..Wanna go Yank.
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Higher STR means it hits harder. Stall Torque Ratio is basically torque multiplication. Mine is a 2.5 so that means that it multiplies my torque by 2.5 times versus stock which is 1.7 I believe. So my converter will hit harder but be less efficient on the top end. Also, the higher STR's equal better driveability in that it takes less revs to accelerate. Lower STR's won't hit as hard, but are more efficient up top and take more revs to get moving. Higher STR's are great if you can hook. I wanted the higher STR because I drive a lot more on the street than at the track. And as for the higher STR's being less inefficient up top...Yanks are supposed to keep a lot of their efficiency as compared to other brands. If someone else can explain that better please do. I have been researching this for some time now and feel that I have a decent understanding.
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^^ you know, I thought the same about my TC, since I do a lot of daily driving, I went with a 2.5 STR. I thought maybe it lacked some up top umphh, but according to datamaster, my TC is actually very efficient up top (comparing slip rpm to rpm) and when I locked it at the strip (if in deed it locked) I gained only a .20 of a mph.....

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Originally Posted by 98A4LS1
What does the trans breaking have to do with theTC? What let go in the trans? 4L60E's are not made to abuse you know.

To the poster, why did you order a 3400 2.1 if you wanted a hard hitting loose TC?
Well, when there are chunks of metal in the pan would you want to install the same converter without it being sent back & looked at? I had a "budget" rebuild last time..I am now going with a race transmission that has a 2yr 24,000 warranty..race it 365 days & year & he will still warranty it..I just don't want to wait for the converter to get back, I would just rather order a new one so there is no down time & then I will have a spare. I lost 3rd gear & it slips in the others..
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I have never had a problem with my yank
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I have a 3500/2.0 and it still creeps at idle, cruises at
1500 and climbs hills at 2000. The lower the STR the
-more- low pedal coupling you have, but the more you
have to get into it to get max multiplication as well. It's
"stretchy". I never have understood the "loose" and
"tight" terminology. I chose mine to specifically -not-
hit the tires hard but it still will break loose past half
throttle or so, so no big loss there.

If you don't know what you want, you may not like
what you get. Regardless of price or the actual
quality of the piece.



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