Switchen sides...T-56 to auto...lots of Q's.
02-03-2007, 04:47 PM
#1
Switchen sides...T-56 to auto...lots of Q's. I'm going to put an automatic in the SS. The only thing is, I'm clueless on auto's. The car is getting set up for the 1/4 mile. Right now it only comes out of the garage maybe twice a week, and for the track. What tranny do you guys reccomend? Converter? Shift kit? Should I get a trans brake? It's also getting nitrous put in in the spring. It will be taken off the road in a year or two, and set up for race use only. Like I said, I'm pretty clueless on autos, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Ken
Ken
02-03-2007, 09:35 PM
#3
Originally Posted by SLowETz
MVB T brake'd TH400 FTW!
I was an M6 > A3 and haven't looked back once.
You'll like it
I was an M6 > A3 and haven't looked back once.
You'll like it
02-03-2007, 10:10 PM
#4
Ok. Yes, manual valve body. You shift the transmission. Can be a forward manual(P,R,N,3,2,1), or reverse manual(P,R,N,1,2,3).
Trans can be built with or without compression braking(engine braking), and can be built with or without a lock up converter(electronically/manually activated lock up solonoid locks the converter for no slip/ 1:1 ratio).
TH350-400's are 3 speeds. No overdrive. Will handle 900-1200 hp with a good build. Can be swapped in easily, can retain your M6 harness and won't require much pcm editing/tuning to work in an M6 car(speedo, and turning off variuos M6 parameters (IE: clutch inhibit solonoid, skip shift, etc.)
4L80E is basically a TH400 with overdrive, but is electronically controlled. You'll need an A4 harness and tune for it to work in your M6 car.
Depends on what your needs are and what you want the car to do. Based on what you've said, I'd think a built 400 would take care of business.
Lot's of competent builders out there to talk to.
Carl Rossler @ http://www.rosslertrans.com is prolly one of the most well known for his transmissions, but he's also pretty proud of them($$$).
YANK/Gearstar (forum sponsor) http://www.converter.cc/
I've got a built Gearstar RMVB, lock up, trans brake'd TH400 with a YANK converter and couldn't be happier with it. Talk to Mike Senia-
Finish Line Transmissions(site sponsor)
TCI(site sponsor)
Take a look at their sites to get an idea of what is offered, and talk to as many builders as you can to get their feedback on what will best fit your needs.
Trans can be built with or without compression braking(engine braking), and can be built with or without a lock up converter(electronically/manually activated lock up solonoid locks the converter for no slip/ 1:1 ratio).
TH350-400's are 3 speeds. No overdrive. Will handle 900-1200 hp with a good build. Can be swapped in easily, can retain your M6 harness and won't require much pcm editing/tuning to work in an M6 car(speedo, and turning off variuos M6 parameters (IE: clutch inhibit solonoid, skip shift, etc.)
4L80E is basically a TH400 with overdrive, but is electronically controlled. You'll need an A4 harness and tune for it to work in your M6 car.
Depends on what your needs are and what you want the car to do. Based on what you've said, I'd think a built 400 would take care of business.
Lot's of competent builders out there to talk to.
Carl Rossler @ http://www.rosslertrans.com is prolly one of the most well known for his transmissions, but he's also pretty proud of them($$$).
YANK/Gearstar (forum sponsor) http://www.converter.cc/
I've got a built Gearstar RMVB, lock up, trans brake'd TH400 with a YANK converter and couldn't be happier with it. Talk to Mike Senia-
Finish Line Transmissions(site sponsor)
TCI(site sponsor)
Take a look at their sites to get an idea of what is offered, and talk to as many builders as you can to get their feedback on what will best fit your needs.
02-03-2007, 10:58 PM
#5
Originally Posted by SLowETz
Ok. Yes, manual valve body. You shift the transmission. Can be a forward manual(P,R,N,3,2,1), or reverse manual(P,R,N,1,2,3).
Trans can be built with or without compression braking(engine braking), and can be built with or without a lock up converter(electronically/manually activated lock up solonoid locks the converter for no slip/ 1:1 ratio).
TH350-400's are 3 speeds. No overdrive. Will handle 900-1200 hp with a good build. Can be swapped in easily, can retain your M6 harness and won't require much pcm editing/tuning to work in an M6 car(speedo, and turning off variuos M6 parameters (IE: clutch inhibit solonoid, skip shift, etc.)
4L80E is basically a TH400 with overdrive, but is electronically controlled. You'll need an A4 harness and tune for it to work in your M6 car.
Depends on what your needs are and what you want the car to do. Based on what you've said, I'd think a built 400 would take care of business.
Lot's of competent builders out there to talk to.
Carl Rossler @ http://www.rosslertrans.com is prolly one of the most well known for his transmissions, but he's also pretty proud of them($$$).
YANK/Gearstar (forum sponsor) http://www.converter.cc/
I've got a built Gearstar RMVB, lock up, trans brake'd TH400 with a YANK converter and couldn't be happier with it. Talk to Mike Senia-
Finish Line Transmissions(site sponsor)
TCI(site sponsor)
Take a look at their sites to get an idea of what is offered, and talk to as many builders as you can to get their feedback on what will best fit your needs.
Trans can be built with or without compression braking(engine braking), and can be built with or without a lock up converter(electronically/manually activated lock up solonoid locks the converter for no slip/ 1:1 ratio).
TH350-400's are 3 speeds. No overdrive. Will handle 900-1200 hp with a good build. Can be swapped in easily, can retain your M6 harness and won't require much pcm editing/tuning to work in an M6 car(speedo, and turning off variuos M6 parameters (IE: clutch inhibit solonoid, skip shift, etc.)
4L80E is basically a TH400 with overdrive, but is electronically controlled. You'll need an A4 harness and tune for it to work in your M6 car.
Depends on what your needs are and what you want the car to do. Based on what you've said, I'd think a built 400 would take care of business.
Lot's of competent builders out there to talk to.
Carl Rossler @ http://www.rosslertrans.com is prolly one of the most well known for his transmissions, but he's also pretty proud of them($$$).
YANK/Gearstar (forum sponsor) http://www.converter.cc/
I've got a built Gearstar RMVB, lock up, trans brake'd TH400 with a YANK converter and couldn't be happier with it. Talk to Mike Senia-
Finish Line Transmissions(site sponsor)
TCI(site sponsor)
Take a look at their sites to get an idea of what is offered, and talk to as many builders as you can to get their feedback on what will best fit your needs.
02-04-2007, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 02SS:ZEUS
Thanks for the help man. I appreciate it. I've got a couple more questions for ya. Is there any big difference between the TH350 and TH400 other than the 400 will eat a little more hp, but take a little more abuse? Is the forward manual and reverse manual just a driver preference thing? What size converter would you reccommend for mainly a track car?...but I do take it to work maybe twice a week. Do you need an MVB tranny to use a trans-lock? Thanks again man.
02-04-2007, 12:41 AM
#7
I could buy a used TH350 right now for $150. Would it be better to go with buying one used and building it, or having a brand new one built? How much does it cost to build a strong TH350 or TH400? About how much can I expect to spend on this swap total??
By the way...when I put a built TH400 with a 4000 stall converter in the car, will I still be able to cruise with it every now and then? Or would it be too hard to drive on the street?
By the way...when I put a built TH400 with a 4000 stall converter in the car, will I still be able to cruise with it every now and then? Or would it be too hard to drive on the street?
Last edited by 02SS:ZEUS; 02-04-2007 at 12:51 AM.
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02-04-2007, 12:53 AM
#8
I would get the Th400 if I were you...You can use your stock manual crossmember with it... It's also pretty much indestructable when you get all of the trimmings for it... I'm doing a RMVB with a TB and can't wait to get it in... The ones that I've been looking at fully built are like $1000-$1400 for the trans and then you have to get a shifter, converter, Torque Arm Relocation bracket of some sort, temp gauge, cooler, and other misc items...It should somewhere around $2500 (the cost of a built T56 alone) and you won't have to worry about them damn $1000 clutches constantly going out on you... How much are you going to go to the track?? You honestly might look at a PowerGlide... If it's going to be geared more toward the track it would be nice... You only have to shift once and the high gear on the TH400 and PG are both 1:1 ratio... Just do some shopping and ask a lot of questions... Good luck bro... Chris
02-04-2007, 12:54 AM
#9
Originally Posted by 02SS:ZEUS
By the way...when I put a built TH400 with a 4000 stall converter in the car, will I still be able to cruise with it every now and then? Or would it be too hard to drive on the street?
02-04-2007, 01:41 AM
#10
Originally Posted by 98turbls1
yeah you should be able to definitely cruise every now and again...What rearend gears do you have in it??
02-04-2007, 05:10 PM
#15
Originally Posted by 98turbls1
So the trans and crossmember relocation are one piece?? You should be able to use that one...At least try it before you commit to another one... As for the driveshaft you're going to have it modified when you get everything set in...
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02-05-2007, 01:01 AM
#17
Why does everyone seem to like the RMVB so much? From my understanding, it was developed to keep you from going to far and putting the car into neutral on your way down the track. But with the new shift kits, and their reverse and neutral lock-outs, wouldn't a forward MVB be more comfortable?? A RMVB is P R N 1 2 3 and a forward MVB is P R N 3 2 1...right?
02-05-2007, 01:07 AM
#18
Originally Posted by 02SS:ZEUS
Why does everyone seem to like the RMVB so much? From my understanding, it was developed to keep you from going to far and putting the car into neutral on your way down the track. But with the new shift kits, and their reverse and neutral lock-outs, wouldn't a forward MVB be more comfortable?? A RMVB is P R N 1 2 3 and a forward MVB is P R N 3 2 1...right?