broke the rock-on down...
#1
broke the rock-on down...
well i finally bit the bullet and dissassembled the rock-on, i have a question or two...
and i also just wanna show what its looking like:
does this look ok?
and this is what my 3-4 clutches look like (that is them right?):
and the overrun clutches:
and the forward clutches, i figured these would be red like the rest, kinda worried about that:
and here is this big *** band, this is what i'm happy about the most i guess because my 1-2 shift is already pretty serious with the stock trans i have:
another question, is the vacuum modulator supposed to be slightly dented in like this?
any help or comments are much appreciated. i'll probably have more shitty camera phone pics tomorrow...
and i also just wanna show what its looking like:
does this look ok?
and this is what my 3-4 clutches look like (that is them right?):
and the overrun clutches:
and the forward clutches, i figured these would be red like the rest, kinda worried about that:
and here is this big *** band, this is what i'm happy about the most i guess because my 1-2 shift is already pretty serious with the stock trans i have:
another question, is the vacuum modulator supposed to be slightly dented in like this?
any help or comments are much appreciated. i'll probably have more shitty camera phone pics tomorrow...
#3
do i have it labeled right, i actually think the first pic may be the low-reverse and the third pic the 3-4 clutches.
the reason i am taking it apart is just to inspect it since i was one of the members who had to do a decent amount of fussing, cussing, and contacting the BBB to get something from rock-on, it has never been installed, just dyno-tested by rock-on i guess...
i'm sure you can understand my suspicions,
here is a list of what this trans is supposed to be:
Parallel deck pump body and cover which eliminates hydraulic cross leaks
Adjust pump rotor and slide clearance to .0015-.002 thousandths in a hand polished pocket.
High rev pump slide spring
Reinforced / staked pump bushing
Port “ported slots” for increased hydraulic flow
Heavy duty, hi rev. vane rings added for maximum pump output
No stick, steel, oversize billet boost valve.
Heavier boost valve spring/ shim added for maximum working line pressure
Hardened, ported stator shaft with oversize bushings added. Stabilizes input shaft.
Raybestos Hi-energy 2-4 band or Red Eagle Alto Band
7 Borg / Warner .065 hi energy frictions 3-4 clutch (4L65E)
29 element forward sprag borg warner
4L65E low roller clutch B/W
H.D. Beast sun shell
Rock drive hardened, balanced, sleeved input shaft & drum, with oversize coast clutch piston
Borg Warner clutches thought
New bushings, using wider where necessary for stability and balance, decreasing cross leaks/increasing durability
New solenoids, altered stock gm
Tested, soldered wiring harness
Transgo HD-2 performance shift kit with 3 washers
Transgo vacuum mod kit
Corvette servo
All accumulator pistons replaced and upgraded with aluminum pistons
Correct end play for performance
Enhanced PWM system to eliminate lock-up drag
Increase Lube capacity
Hardened galvanized control plate to handle the increased pressure requirements of a performance build.
and this is only the second transmission i have ever taken apart so bear with me...
the reason i am taking it apart is just to inspect it since i was one of the members who had to do a decent amount of fussing, cussing, and contacting the BBB to get something from rock-on, it has never been installed, just dyno-tested by rock-on i guess...
i'm sure you can understand my suspicions,
here is a list of what this trans is supposed to be:
Parallel deck pump body and cover which eliminates hydraulic cross leaks
Adjust pump rotor and slide clearance to .0015-.002 thousandths in a hand polished pocket.
High rev pump slide spring
Reinforced / staked pump bushing
Port “ported slots” for increased hydraulic flow
Heavy duty, hi rev. vane rings added for maximum pump output
No stick, steel, oversize billet boost valve.
Heavier boost valve spring/ shim added for maximum working line pressure
Hardened, ported stator shaft with oversize bushings added. Stabilizes input shaft.
Raybestos Hi-energy 2-4 band or Red Eagle Alto Band
7 Borg / Warner .065 hi energy frictions 3-4 clutch (4L65E)
29 element forward sprag borg warner
4L65E low roller clutch B/W
H.D. Beast sun shell
Rock drive hardened, balanced, sleeved input shaft & drum, with oversize coast clutch piston
Borg Warner clutches thought
New bushings, using wider where necessary for stability and balance, decreasing cross leaks/increasing durability
New solenoids, altered stock gm
Tested, soldered wiring harness
Transgo HD-2 performance shift kit with 3 washers
Transgo vacuum mod kit
Corvette servo
All accumulator pistons replaced and upgraded with aluminum pistons
Correct end play for performance
Enhanced PWM system to eliminate lock-up drag
Increase Lube capacity
Hardened galvanized control plate to handle the increased pressure requirements of a performance build.
and this is only the second transmission i have ever taken apart so bear with me...
#5
Did not see the long post. I have been inside a few of Dave's units. The ones I saw broke hard parts. From what I can tell he used to put a solid unit together.... but I do know the whole story too, so I understand your trepidation.
So far from the pics provided, everything looks just fine. The dent in the modulator is not an issue, looks out of the box to me.
So far from the pics provided, everything looks just fine. The dent in the modulator is not an issue, looks out of the box to me.
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The first set of clutches you pictured are the "reverse input" the next are both the "overun (the 2 smallest ones ) and the forward . the next are the 3-4 and they look like good high energy BWs. The modulator comes out of the package just like that . Now looking at these pictures I need to know why you pulled the trans and tore it down because you havn't shown me a problem yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!! John
#7
this trans has been sitting around for about a year, and since i'm in an auto trans class right now, i figured what the hell.
i guess i'll put it back together maybe put it in tomorrow to see how it runs, track on saturday, so i guess now is a good time to install it...
i guess i'll put it back together maybe put it in tomorrow to see how it runs, track on saturday, so i guess now is a good time to install it...