does anyone's stock 4l60e eat fluid?
10-14-2007, 01:06 AM
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does anyone's stock 4l60e eat fluid? or burn it off? to cap off a perfectly shitty day, starting with staying up till 2am to watch my red sox lose embarrassingly, i find one the ride home my car wont shift out of 2nd gear and obviously wont lock up. so i go home check the trans fluid oil isnt even registering on the dipstick. son of a bitch. so i put about 1/3 of a quart in and it registers right between the dots, sweet. take it back out and it shifts through all the gears and locks up just nice. so now im thinking where in the **** is this thing leaking from. check the factory cooler input (i did not bypass the factory cooler) bone dry. checked the after market cooler lines. same. so now im wondering if 4l60e's with big stalls or any eat or burn tranny fluid? any have any insight? im going to recheck all the lines in the am, and see if theres a puddle anywhere (maybe a really slow leak?). any one else have an issue similar to this?
10-14-2007, 01:40 AM
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or burn it off? to cap off a perfectly shitty day, starting with staying up till 2am to watch my red sox lose embarrassingly, i find one the ride home my car wont shift out of 2nd gear and obviously wont lock up. so i go home check the trans fluid oil isnt even registering on the dipstick. son of a bitch. so i put about 1/3 of a quart in and it registers right between the dots, sweet. take it back out and it shifts through all the gears and locks up just nice. so now im thinking where in the **** is this thing leaking from. check the factory cooler input (i did not bypass the factory cooler) bone dry. checked the after market cooler lines. same. so now im wondering if 4l60e's with big stalls or any eat or burn tranny fluid? any have any insight? im going to recheck all the lines in the am, and see if theres a puddle anywhere (maybe a really slow leak?). any one else have an issue similar to this?
10-14-2007, 01:43 AM
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If lockup stops after a drive and the fluid is not low I would suspect engine missfire. However in the case of missing fluid its has to be leaking somewhere, The only other way I have seen them loose fluid is with the vac mod and a bad diaphram in the modulator. But since you have a stock 60e this cannot be the case
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10-14-2007, 02:11 AM
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If lockup stops after a drive and the fluid is not low I would suspect engine missfire. However in the case of missing fluid its has to be leaking somewhere, The only other way I have seen them loose fluid is with the vac mod and a bad diaphram in the modulator. But since you have a stock 60e this cannot be the case
10-14-2007, 02:14 AM
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Its a missfire like a miss it can be very slight and may not set a code but the PCM will disable lockup. You can go into tuning and raise the threshold in most cases to eliminate the problem its most prevalent in cars with large cams.
As for checking fluild car should be warm and running in park level should be at top of the crosshatch
As for checking fluild car should be warm and running in park level should be at top of the crosshatch
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10-14-2007, 02:22 AM
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Its a missfire like a miss it can be very slight and may not set a code but the PCM will disable lockup. You can go into tuning and raise the threshold in most cases to eliminate the problem its most prevalent in cars with large cams.
As for checking fluild car should be warm and running in park level should be at top of the crosshatch
As for checking fluild car should be warm and running in park level should be at top of the crosshatch
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10-14-2007, 10:40 AM
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Actually in the OP he says he didnt so good call, Didnt think of that, Hopefully its not that though might be time for a trans soon if its that since it tends to travel both ways PEPTO BISMOIL yuk
I have seen a few of those. We actually had a guy return one to us like that after he had allready gotten a replacement trans( the reason we no longer do that) Odd he talked to me alot before we sent the trans but couldnt be reached after we got the first one back
I have seen a few of those. We actually had a guy return one to us like that after he had allready gotten a replacement trans( the reason we no longer do that) Odd he talked to me alot before we sent the trans but couldnt be reached after we got the first one back
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10-15-2007, 11:30 AM
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also, i double checked the connections at the cooler. a little dirty, but we used thread locker to seal them up good and at the factory locations, those are bone dry. it was a little damp at the bottom of the bellhousing, but didnt smell like tranny fluid. also around the inspection cover it was the same. im going to drive it today and see if its the same tomorrow.
on a side note, can the place where the bellhousing connects to the block, can that area leak? it seems well lined up, but looks arent always the best.
10-15-2007, 01:42 PM
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just looks like normal dex to me. should i double check it when its idling or when its off?
also, i double checked the connections at the cooler. a little dirty, but we used thread locker to seal them up good and at the factory locations, those are bone dry. it was a little damp at the bottom of the bellhousing, but didnt smell like tranny fluid. also around the inspection cover it was the same. im going to drive it today and see if its the same tomorrow.
on a side note, can the place where the bellhousing connects to the block, can that area leak? it seems well lined up, but looks arent always the best.
also, i double checked the connections at the cooler. a little dirty, but we used thread locker to seal them up good and at the factory locations, those are bone dry. it was a little damp at the bottom of the bellhousing, but didnt smell like tranny fluid. also around the inspection cover it was the same. im going to drive it today and see if its the same tomorrow.
on a side note, can the place where the bellhousing connects to the block, can that area leak? it seems well lined up, but looks arent always the best.
FWIW... an automatic transmission cannot... will not consume transmission fluid. It can only leak it out.
If there are signs of leakage from the bellhousing area it can only be from the pump or the converter itself. Or a cracked case of course.
Hope that helps.
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10-16-2007, 12:06 AM
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just looks like normal dex to me. should i double check it when its idling or when its off?
also, i double checked the connections at the cooler. a little dirty, but we used thread locker to seal them up good and at the factory locations, those are bone dry. it was a little damp at the bottom of the bellhousing, but didnt smell like tranny fluid. also around the inspection cover it was the same. im going to drive it today and see if its the same tomorrow.
on a side note, can the place where the bellhousing connects to the block, can that area leak? it seems well lined up, but looks arent always the best.
also, i double checked the connections at the cooler. a little dirty, but we used thread locker to seal them up good and at the factory locations, those are bone dry. it was a little damp at the bottom of the bellhousing, but didnt smell like tranny fluid. also around the inspection cover it was the same. im going to drive it today and see if its the same tomorrow.
on a side note, can the place where the bellhousing connects to the block, can that area leak? it seems well lined up, but looks arent always the best.
10-16-2007, 09:57 AM
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I guess what I meant to say is look in the radiator and see if there are signs of trans fluid in there. As far as the oil by the bell not to repeat what G said but he is right here. I would also like to add that I have seen pan gaskets leak and the oil will work it's way to the bell area. This will make it look as if it is coming out of the front of the trans but it is not. Sorry G if I sound like another guy around here!
The important thing here is that we get the correct info to these guys! That's why we do what we do!
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10-16-2007, 11:00 AM
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i appreciate all of the help, im going to look it over tomorrow and take a real close look at the pan. i just dont know where its coming from. theres no leaks anywhere and no puddles after sitting for a couple days. can the fluid come out of the inspection cover?
