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Old 02-05-2011, 01:59 PM
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Default EPA Rates Mileage of "30MPG" Mahindra Compact Diesel Truck

Mahindra’s 30MPG Fiction



By Edward Niedermeyer on February 4, 2011

Mahindra’s abortive plans to bring its rugged diesel-powered pickups to the US began back in 2007, just as gas prices were starting to run out of control. Now, after years of delays, steadily-increasing prices and general neglect of the compact pickup market have served only to whet our appetite for efficient little developing world-style trucks. Throughout the the last several years, Mahindra has battled with its US distributor, pulled out of other US efforts and generally failed to deliver… all while dangling the dream of a 30 MPG diesel pickup at hopeful enthusiasts. But, as it turns out, Mahindra’s problems don’t end with distribution: though its diesel engine was approved by the EPA, we hadn’t seen EPA confirmation for the long-held 30 MPG goal. Well, the EPA just released the window sticker for the Mahindra TR40 [via MahindraPlanet], a 4X4 four-door version of its 2.2 liter diesel pickup… and it gets nowhere close to 30 MPG.



That’s right, try 19/21 MPG. If you can’t find a rugged, reliable used pickup that will return that kind of mileage all day long, you aren’t trying hard enough. Sure, the two-door version might be more efficient, but will it realistically hit 30 MPG? We doubt it. On the other hand, this disappointing news will help the Mahindra-curious let go of a fantasy that was clearly too good to be true.

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Which is why we need a 4.5L D-max Colorado/Canyon. I gurantee it would get better fuel economy than that. Oh, and much better power/torque.

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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
Which is why we need a 4.5L D-max Colorado/Canyon. I gurantee it would get better fuel economy than that. Oh, and much better power/torque.

Absolutely!!
Some D-max owners are getting mid 20's with some mods. And those trucks weight a hell of alot more than the compact trucks weight.
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Hope GM wakes up fast and realizes the potential in smaller Diesel powered trucks.
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
Which is why we need a 4.5L D-max Colorado/Canyon. I gurantee it would get better fuel economy than that. Oh, and much better power/torque.

Damn right, I'd be in for one of those in a Crew Cab 4x4 version.
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US to China

"We don't want your cheaply built crap cars over here"
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Originally Posted by 1995blacktattop
US to China

"We don't want your cheaply built crap cars over here"
"But your cheaply built everything else, send it on over."
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Originally Posted by XxGarbSxX
"But your cheaply built everything else, send it on over."

Seriously.
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^How can you guys seriously look at the word Mahindra and think China?
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Originally Posted by L33Z71
Damn right, I'd be in for one of those in a Crew Cab 4x4 version.
I'm actually considering a 5.3 powered crew cab myself, but the diesel option would be pretty nice. More towing power is always a good thing.
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Originally Posted by 1995blacktattop
US to China

"We don't want your cheaply built crap cars over here"
You do realize that it is from India don't you?
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I just wonder how it could be so pathetically bad... Must be all the crap they had to add to it to meet our "standard" for emissions.
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Mahindra from China? lol
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US to India we don't want your junk.

Back on Topic... i think their ratings are a farse. My 2500 Silverado gets over 20 MPG with 6.6 liters and 7500 pounds.
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Originally Posted by Jon5212
US to India we don't want your junk.

Back on Topic... i think their ratings are a farse. My 2500 Silverado gets over 20 MPG with 6.6 liters and 7500 pounds.
The one in your sig? D-max? If so, keep that one forever... The 2wd 3500 work truck I drove weighed much less and didn't come close to 20mpg at any point other than downhill. Weight has little to do with it once the load is moving, unless a trailer is attached. That isn't to say a fully loaded bed won't affect economy, but tossing 1-2k worth of stuff in the cab and bed won't make much diff. unless you're in stop-n-go city traffic. At that point, economy won't be good regardless.
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I want the goddamn Toyota Hilux here already!
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
The one in your sig? D-max? If so, keep that one forever... The 2wd 3500 work truck I drove weighed much less and didn't come close to 20mpg at any point other than downhill. Weight has little to do with it once the load is moving, unless a trailer is attached. That isn't to say a fully loaded bed won't affect economy, but tossing 1-2k worth of stuff in the cab and bed won't make much diff. unless you're in stop-n-go city traffic. At that point, economy won't be good regardless.
Yes the one in my sig running my race tune I still pull 20 MPG. I drive 50/50 city and highway.

There must have been something wrong with yours because Duramaxes once tuned most average 17-22 MPG.
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Good grief, my pig of a '99 formula gets better mileage than that without trying hard.

In fact, how do you make a small diesel get pitiful mileage like that? Full size 1 ton diesels are hardly that bad...
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Originally Posted by Jon5212
Yes the one in my sig running my race tune I still pull 20 MPG. I drive 50/50 city and highway.

There must have been something wrong with yours because Duramaxes once tuned most average 17-22 MPG.
It was a work truck and had the factory tune. I had to rely on it, so it wasn't getting modified. The majority of people I knew(at the time) with the same type of pickup was closer to 16mpg depending on 2 or 4wd, etc. Many of the newer ones are worse, until this yr. GM doesn't have to offer a rating on these, but their website says, today they're seeing over 11% better economy than the previous model... Some simple math (based on their claim of up to 680 miles per 36g fill up) suggests the last version was seeing a little under 19mpg and today it's around 21.

Originally Posted by $750 L98
Good grief, my pig of a '99 formula gets better mileage than that without trying hard.

In fact, how do you make a small diesel get pitiful mileage like that? Full size 1 ton diesels are hardly that bad...
Easy... Allow our government to regulate it...
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^I don't know a whole lot about diesels, but from what I've heard from friends they all blow with the stock tune and emissions. Trashing that and buying a programmer and they are at the ~20mpg mark.

I do think Fords new turbo'd 3.5 or 3.7 would do great in a Ranger if they would man up and build it, just like small diesels would kick *** in half-tons, but of course they won't do something like that.

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