Revealed - All-New Cadillac ATS - The Basis for the Next Camaro?
01-09-2012, 10:59 AM
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01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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They also confirmed that this car will have a Diesel option in its first year.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/08/2...ine-confirmed/
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/08/2...ine-confirmed/
01-09-2012, 03:00 PM
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Yea some new concepts... Looks like the next couple years are going to be pretty interesting with GM! 
Lets just hope the world doesn't end in December
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01-10-2012, 12:31 PM
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We actually don't know because nothing in the press release specifies what ATS model weighs "around" 3,400lbs. I would put money on that it isn't the 3.6L version most people will buy.
It's also worth noting the BMW 3-Series is about the same size and weighs less over the whole model range with the top 3-Series twin-turbo coming in shy of 3,600lbs.
It's also worth noting the BMW 3-Series is about the same size and weighs less over the whole model range with the top 3-Series twin-turbo coming in shy of 3,600lbs.
01-12-2012, 01:26 PM
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Plus if you're engineering for a certain (meaning affordable) pricepoint you're going to use steel. This contributes to weight and this is why the majority of vehicles today are 3,500-4,000lbs.
Cars may become a little lighter in the coming years due to aluminum, magnesium and other lighter materials but that is also going to make them cost more as well as make insurance and crash repair more expensive.
01-12-2012, 03:52 PM
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Bob Lutz said in his book that GM emphasizes a substantial feel in the way their vehicles ride as well as quiet and comfort. That's what he had to say about weight and that a quality feel is imparted by doors that have a good thunk, heavier steering and comfortable experience. Which is correct.
Plus if you're engineering for a certain (meaning affordable) pricepoint you're going to use steel. This contributes to weight and this is why the majority of vehicles today are 3,500-4,000lbs.
Cars may become a little lighter in the coming years due to aluminum, magnesium and other lighter materials but that is also going to make them cost more as well as make insurance and crash repair more expensive.
Plus if you're engineering for a certain (meaning affordable) pricepoint you're going to use steel. This contributes to weight and this is why the majority of vehicles today are 3,500-4,000lbs.
Cars may become a little lighter in the coming years due to aluminum, magnesium and other lighter materials but that is also going to make them cost more as well as make insurance and crash repair more expensive.
01-12-2012, 06:57 PM
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That depends. I work at a magnesium plant. We can machine and assemble IP's and other castings in house. For steel an engineering change in the part usually means it will be sent to another facility for machining. Sure the upfront cost of mag is more, but once you take steel and start machining, adding holes, assembling and other engineering changes down the road, the initial price difference disappears.
01-13-2012, 08:29 PM
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If chevy was looking to make an "affordable exotic", the Miray looks a hell of a lot more the part than the civic/eclipse looking tru140s. That would be an awesome domestic exotic.
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Regardless the other models, the new ATS is on my list of cars to look into as I might just toss hard-earned money on a new car later this year. I so despise buying new though, I'll probably wait till I find a used but uncrashed version.
PS if the next Camaro is based on this chassis, LOOK OUT WORLD, HERE IT COMES! Idonno what they'll use for an engine(or what might actually fit), but if they can manage to slip a supercharged LSA into that chassis... WOW!
