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Old 01-17-2012, 06:35 AM   #1
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Default ZL1 Tested vs BOSS

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...2_laguna_seca/

Like one should expect, the ZL1 did better at Laguna Seca. Good stuff GM. Next matchup... Well, we all know what that will be.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...l1-test-review

Car and Driver tested it at Indy in the 1/4 mile. 12.3 @ 119. The track was crap so we can assume a .1 or .2 second decrese in time with better conditions. We will see a stock ZL1 run 11s one day, just not that day.
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I will be the first to say it...I am impressed that it beat the Boss Laguna Seca around the track. The fact that it was faster through all the corners except one says a lot about the suspension and tire choice on the ZL1.

I have no clue here, but I would think the Boss Laguna Seca is the quickest Mustang to date around almost any track (including Shelby cars), but the 2013 GT500 is a new animal yet to be tested.

Either way, I think that beating a Boss around a track by over 2 seconds is no easy accomplishment (just ask the BMW M3 boys).
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:36 AM   #3
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Interesting the comments on the Boss, they seem almost the opposite of other reviews I've seen. Good job by the ZL1. I'd be interested to see what the actual track times are and how they compare.
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That is very surprising. Definitely goes to show its more than "just a supercharged 5th gen".
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Crap would expect better mpg than 16/19 from the ZR1! I wasn't expecting close to 30 or anything hwy, but even with a low cruising speed at 60 I would think it would have a low enough cruise rpm it could pull off MUCH better mileage. Hell the C6Z can still pull off mid 20's on the highway and its more track dedicated than this. Usually when I gloat about the LS engines to people it's always about the MPG it gets despite being "a gas guzzling ginormous V8."
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Not surprised at all. Everything about the current Camaro from the ground-up is a generation ahead of the Mustang which has been around since 2005. We'll see if Ford tweaked the GT500 enough to surpass the ZL1. The power is certainly there but is the grip?
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Hell the C6Z can still pull off mid 20's on the highway
The aerodynamics, weight, gearing and tires between the Camaro and Corvette are in two different universes.
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Default ZL1 spanks BOSS 302 Laguna seca

ZL1 beats the Mustang BOSS 302 Laguna Seca by 2.4 seconds per lap. Carries more speed in almost every corner. Would have been faster even without the HP advantage....read on.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...2_laguna_seca/
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still not worth that sticker price....
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Got so excited you couldn't look down a couple posts in the same section?
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I can see the ford guys saying it took a supercharged camaro to beat the all motor pony car. Just like we been saying about the 2003 cobra vs a ls1 fbody. I say put the supercharged camaro to the supercharged mustang
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Got so excited you couldn't look down a couple posts in the same section?
Well I was so excited I was jerking off at the same time...so its hard to concentrate.

Sorry I double posted Dad...it wont happen again.
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No...the 13 GT500 will beat this car. It is too expensive for me and too heavy.

And not nearly excited enough to register on a mustang website and spend my time their.

I missed the other post. Sorry your mad about the results.

Maybe we should have 5 new threads every time a 5.0 runs a good 1/4 mile time instead. Would that make you happy?
Making a lot of conclusions from a magazine driver skippy

I said "good job by the ZL1" in the other thread I'm not sure why you're so gung-ho.

But if we want to go around that road the regular Boss has lapped it at 1:40 IIRC. Thats the regular Boss, the LS has been into the 1:3Xs. This reviewer seems to be alone in his criticisms of the LS as motortrend itself gave it their Driver Car of the year award and praised its feel up and down.
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I say put the supercharged camaro to the supercharged mustang
When the new one comes out they will. IIRC the Boss is faster around the track than the current GT500 anyway.
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Caught your edit LOL. Someone is worked up.
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Not surprised at all. Everything about the current Camaro from the ground-up is a generation ahead of the Mustang which has been around since 2005. We'll see if Ford tweaked the GT500 enough to surpass the ZL1. The power is certainly there but is the grip?

No way the ZL1 is a generation ahead of the BOSS Mustang. Yes, the Mustang body style has been around since 2005, but, the BOSS, ground up, track designed Mustang uses current technology. So, the comparison is valid current tech vs current tech.

A GT500 w/ a suspension under it would be a sight to see, but, doubtful. There's already far too many Mustang models available. To design a GT500 in a way to beat the ZL1, on a road course, would also hurt BOSS sales. The BOSS already hurt sales of the Roush, which was basically a BOSS in waiting.

Am SHOCKED to see that a ZL1 has beaten a BOSS around a road course. 2.5 seconds per lap is a lifetime...WOW!
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Caught your edit LOL. Someone is worked up.
Still jerking...going for round 2.

Are you excited?

Nice job comparing different drivers on different days. Means nothing compared to same driver same day.

I guess Ill have to mag race this scenario....do you have a boss 302 and a zl1 we could battle it out in?
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No surprises on the lap times. I new that was gonna be a *** whooping.
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Still jerking...going for round 2.

Are you excited?

Nice job comparing different drivers on different days. Means nothing compared to same driver same day.

I guess Ill have to mag race this scenario....do you have a boss 302 and a zl1 we could battle it out in?
Ford guys always need some type of cruch to lean on...lol What's really gonna hurt is when they test a 12 SS Camaro with it's new suspension package and it outruns the Boss also.
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I can't even keep up with all of your edits.
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