ATS-V tested!!
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ATS-V tested!!
I read 60-0 in 103! 70-0 in 154!!
0-60 in 4.2
1/4 mile 12.6(manual) @ 115and 12.3(auto)114.6mph
.98 lateral acceleration!!
Detractors? Well, none really, but some will whine over the 3,760 lb curb weight. That said, I was 55-65 lb wrong and it's indeed heavier than I expected. However, those 60 lb WON'T be a problem!
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._v_first_test/
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...pe-test-review
The ATS-V is everything it should be and we can all expect something similar from the 2016 Camaro SS.
In base Camaro SS form @ anything under 45k, this is the pony car world,
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3700lbs is not THAT heavy... Considering a loaded 2002 SS weighs only 100lbs less. My buddies '03 Cobra weighs that much as well. As long as they stay around that weight, I won't complain. The technology and safety equipment in new cars just adds weight, no way around it really. That MPH says it's got 11's in it as well.
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Maye I missed it but I didn't see any road course times for either? That will be the true comparison.
Being 0.3 seconds quicker in a strait line for a 1/4 mile when talking about luxury sports sedans specifically tuned for the road course is not even close to "smoking" anything.
Meh, not really.
Consider all the "Cadillac bells and whistles" this car has, plus the extra weight of a DOHC engine + turbos + intercoolers and piping.
I could definitely see a LT1 version (all else equal) being at least 100lbs lighter just engine for engine.
Also on that same note I wish this car came with an LT1...
Being 0.3 seconds quicker in a strait line for a 1/4 mile when talking about luxury sports sedans specifically tuned for the road course is not even close to "smoking" anything.
Consider all the "Cadillac bells and whistles" this car has, plus the extra weight of a DOHC engine + turbos + intercoolers and piping.
I could definitely see a LT1 version (all else equal) being at least 100lbs lighter just engine for engine.
Also on that same note I wish this car came with an LT1...
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I wouldn't go there just yet. Sure, it looks as if... but we've seen SO VERY LITTLE of the ATS-V so far, we may be surprised in the end. I'm telling ya, this car is going to handle well and it is powerful, etc. I say this as someone who's blatantly said many times, I'm just not an ATS fan. I'm still thinking it's fine to wait till we truly see what's what on the road and the track.
I've been warning people for seemingly about a year, do not expect a 3,600 lb Camaro SS and doing so is going to net hurt feelings. I've been called names and personally attacked over it here(got a real laugh once this info showed up), and the fact I'm rarely wrong and I'm a jerk about it. Through it all, I've been steadfast on this. The SS will weigh in around 3,700 lb to 3,800 lb(personally think in base form it will be 3,695-3,705 right now) and the reasons are many, starting and ending with our garbage government morons who know almost as much about vehicles as the average American 5th grader.
Blame them, but keep this in mind. The Camaro and ATS-V will SERIOUSLY perform and that's much more important than what it weighs. Buyers can remove weight.
Blame them, but keep this in mind. The Camaro and ATS-V will SERIOUSLY perform and that's much more important than what it weighs. Buyers can remove weight.
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Still, it is huge. The old V was a strong running car. In the video of this one, Tony ran a 2:37 and I'm thinking it's the same track.
Add $10k to the price and give it another 100hp. Rebadge it. Call it a Buick GNX.
On the other hand, I want them to DROP the price 10k and they could leave the power alone. I can "fix that problem" myself.
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Outgoing. Start @ 2:45 and by 3 minutes, you'll get clarification on that and the weight drop of 500 lb over the same outgoing CTS-V.
Still, it is huge. The old V was a strong running car. In the video of this one, Tony ran a 2:37 and I'm thinking it's the same track.
That could work well.
On the other hand, I want them to DROP the price 10k and they could leave the power alone. I can "fix that problem" myself.
Still, it is huge. The old V was a strong running car. In the video of this one, Tony ran a 2:37 and I'm thinking it's the same track.
That could work well.
On the other hand, I want them to DROP the price 10k and they could leave the power alone. I can "fix that problem" myself.
Yes. "Outgoing". I shouldn't have used the word "current". Still amazing.
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Have to say I am impressed with the ATS and pretty much agreed on all points being made except for the one disapointment post on 6th gen "prospective" weight.
Given the weight of this ATS-V, my guess is right around 3700 even for a 6th gen base V8 model. I think that is a great improvement from the 5th gen (obviously dropping weight these days is a big deal), and the LT1 power plant in that weight of a pony car will yield results.
Given the weight of this ATS-V, my guess is right around 3700 even for a 6th gen base V8 model. I think that is a great improvement from the 5th gen (obviously dropping weight these days is a big deal), and the LT1 power plant in that weight of a pony car will yield results.
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TAs are kinda heavy but most Camaros are around 3400-3550. Basically what a Corvette weighs nowadays. I know it'll never be like the old days but I was hoping for a Camaro SS in the low 3600s. Maybe a low optioned 1LE can achieve that.
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Losing by .3-.4 and 4-5 MPH in the 1/4 is a pretty bad loss. Who knows how much that incline at the top end of the track hurt the numbers.
The rest of the performance numbers are on par though.
The rest of the performance numbers are on par though.
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I'm almost expecting standard push button start and a NAV screen(w/o the nav itself), along with the standard large wheels/tires. If a 1LE or whatever is going to lose much weight... that's the spot... wheels and tires. There simply isn't much room elsewhere. I wouldn't expect a GT350R type move, but Chevy could surely just use a smaller set and probably shave off 20 lb relatively easily.