Ben R

http://www.edc.ca/prodserv/automotiv...leveland_e.pdf

It takes a second to load, but check out page 63.

Thanks to _Zac for the link. He's such a toolbag.

99PTA

What about the Trusty T/A??????

hey Ben..... I"M RICH B"TICH

Diolar Magnum

2007, 2008...... too FAR AWAY. but good. building, waiting, preparing to strike. heheheehe

y2k_ta

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Yeah where's the 'bird?

Gloveperson

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Hahah..I posted this yesterday here lol. I am glad this is getting around, although the thread I got it from from cz28 seems to be gone

qwikz28

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according to that chart the camaro will be sharing a platform with the GTO, the Grand Prix, the impala, the buick roadmaster, and a new buick. looks like they are gonna give us a sport coupe as opposed to a high-number sports car. which is bad news for the bird lets just hope they don't butcher the styling of the camaro.

Gloveperson

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Lutz said that was dead

Shinkaze

God I hate presentations liek that. I see them all the time in internal product-developmet meetings. Typical view of an engineer/accountant trying to make a succesful product. "if we just control our supplier costs and push for efficiency then we won't be able to make the cars fast enough to meet demand".

Give me a break.. This slide about made me puke
What a hunk of crap. If I care about Price I'll buy a Neon. No, I will(did) pay *more* for a car that meets my needs and doesn't feel like a cheap tin can made from suppliers pushed to the point of breaking.
I can honestly say not one of those factors has *Ever* entered my mind during a car purchase.

The good that did come out of that slide show was this.. Notice the GP is finally going RWD! WOO HOO!
GM Buick Roadmaster Zeta - 2006
GM Buick Velite Zeta - 2007
GM Pontiac Grand Prix Zeta - 2007
GM Pontiac GTO Zeta - 2007

GM Chevrolet Camaro Zeta
GM Chevrolet Impala Zeta - 2008
GM Chevrolet Monte Carlo Zeta - 2009

GM Cadillac CTS Sigma - 2007

y2k_ta

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I heard him say that too......instead he crams the Solstice down our throats.

Vendetta

I'm about to cram something down Lutz's wife's throat if he doesn't give me a $20-25k LS2 coupe car, no matter what the hell its called.

Gloveperson

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Can the person who started this thread delete it? The info was not supposed to be leaked and if you follow cz28.com 5th gen area, you would now why. So I am asking if one of the moderators or the thread starter to delete the thread.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324652

This post sort of sums up why.

ActionJack

TriShield

Get it ready, that's not likely going to happen. Maybe $25k-$35k.

SCamaroS

What exactly is the ZETA? Anyone that knows please enlighten me.

bruddah_man_matt

Zeta is the platform which will underpin the next gen VE Commodore as well as the other products listed in this thread and on that list. It is primarily RWD although I believe it can accomodate AWD as well as Holden will need an AWD platform to underpin its current crop of AWD products based on the VY/VZ platform and Lutz is also considering using Zeta to underpin the next Saab 9-5 which according to him is a viable alternative to Epsilon as Saabs must be FWD or AWD.

99FormulaWs6

There are a couple of cars on there that will be interesting to see what they do with as they come back, this is good news for sure. cz28.com is a joke, do you really think GM is going to say, oh my god Bob they found out we're gonna re-introduce the Camaro, we better just cancel the whole project, not to mention they have a forum dedicated to just that, spy shots etc...I understand the legal implications but just delete any threads that pop up with that if you're worried about GM Suing.

badjuju342

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That thread on Cz28.com is no joke. Scott Settlemire , one of the corporate GM executives , was on that website under the username "Red Planet". He posted there often and tried to listen to the enthusiasts' wants and desires in a performance car. After the Z06 fiasco , just being there jeopardized his position at GM and he was even looked at as a source of the leak by GM bigwigs. It wasn't him but he just about lost his job. Because of a stupid leak , they lost someone who could have been in more tune with what we wanted with the new Camaro.Because of someone's selfish want to be in the spotlight , a really good guy just about had his livelyhood screwed up. Not cool. I also request this thread be removed before any more damage is caused. It's not stupid , it could save the poster and the owners of this website from a lawsuit.

Shinkaze

Glove,
CZ28.com has close ties with GM that they do not want to endanger. I can understand and respect what Jason Debler is trying to do there (FWIW Jason and I go back to 1994 when we were both members of the F-Body.org mailing list) Despite my own atempts at forming a closer relationship with GM marketing, and my own conversations with Scott Settlemier LS1Tech is not as close to our manufacturer as say VWvortex is to VW or Audi World is to Audi. Ford and GM (in general) still have a very adversarial relationship with the online communities. Specific individuals like Scott are trying to work with us.

I will take it up with the other admins though.

-Adam

Pro Stock John

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I'm not deleting it.

Connect the dots. If the GTO is made here in the near future, then we will see other vehicles made off of that platform for Chevrolet and Buick. And the Zeta platform is the only platform in GM that could be used for a Camaro.

If GM was hip, they'd take like a bunch of our guys to be in a design clinic, we are the folks who will buy the car and modify it. Look at how Ford rolled out the new Mustang, and also let the aftermarket swarm over them. Too bad a lot of the GM guys are old and out of touch. Hopefully the Camaro will be okay looking and show some verve.

I've met Settlemire a number of times, and he's a nice guy, but his little hints were BS and I got tired of that stuff, IMO, if you can't tell me something then don't hint around and be like that.

ADMIN

Pro Stock John

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Oh and here is another way to track new cars, talk to contacts who work for suppliers and find out if they have been asked to bid on anything sounding like a Camaro. There is some Zeta sounding RWD stuff out there but it all points to 2007 which looks like a big rollout year for GM.