mmmchickenboy

"If you're driving a GM vehicle, chances are you have a GM Powertrain engine and transmission under your hood."

That is hotlinked right from GM's website. I'm sorry but I just don't understand the message there. It seems wrong to me. What GM vehicles don't have GM engines and transmissions?? I just don't get it.

ActionJack

I would guess they are saying they use their own engines because some vehicles out there do not.

Example: My 96' Ford Ranger had a Mitsubishi engine I beleive. In which case it was not a Ford engine that was giving me the quality but Mitsubishi.

firechicken2k

who has a transmission under the hood ???

Shinkaze

The ZR1 with it's Mercury Marine engine comes to mind

Shinkaze

FWIW though the 6-speed in the Vette, Camaro and Firebird isn't a GM transmission either.

Keith

There is a honda 3.5L V6 in some saturn.

99FormulaWs6

The Vue (saturn) has a Honda 3.5 the Vibe has a Toyota motor/tranny in it, the Duramax is actually a Izuzu motor with GM "engineering and an Allison transmission. just so you know.

technical

GM has used Getrag(I think), ZF, Borg Warner, Tremec, New Process, etc. for drivetrain in the past. Geo's were basically a combination of Asian parts. The ZR-1(LT-5) engine was desiged by Lotus and manufactured by Mercury and had a ZF 6 speed mated to it. BMW for at least a period was using GM Hydromatics. Isuzu has been using the GM 60* V6 for a while now.

I guess the badge on the outside of the car means that company made the floor mats.

Shinkaze

Maybe they mean it's a "GM powertrain" because GM bought the Powertrain from someone else.... now owns it.... and is selling it to you. "Assembled" by GM

y2k_ta

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I'd have to agree. So your Chevy Aveo is no longer a Daewoo (that's powered by a Daewoo), it's a "GM Product". Thanks to badge-engineering.

There's a '54 Vette that frequents the Central Indiana car show scene that's powered by a Ford V8. Does that count?

demonspeed

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Dodge usually uses Mitsubishi products. It's Mazda that Ford borrows from.

BAD2000TA

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Yeah, this was good marketing money spent! No wonder we never saw many Camaro/Firebird ads - brilliant campaigns like this make more sense!!

And they wonder why no one is buying their ****! Who cares what's under the hood! I mean, remember all that BS when they had the "corporate" V8 under the hoods of GMs?. No more "real" Pontiac engines, Olds engines, etc.

I wish they would get their act together. I'm seriously looking at that silly Shelby GT500 or even the Charger SRT-8. Can't understand them.

TriShield

Mazda is Ford, just like Holden is GM.

transAm-98

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my taurus SHO had a yamaha motor in it (kick *** motor by the way). everything else was ford, and everything else fell apart.

technical

BTW, that engine (3800 SFI) is older than dirt. Perfect GM advertisement.... "Chevy Revolution", "Pontiac Excitement", "Not your father's Oldsmobile", "new new new..." Yeah, welcome to 1985...Did you hear David Lee Roth left Van Halen?

GM's is starting to become an airline...old equipment, outdated business model, bad management.

Shinkaze

Actually the 3800 has been around since the 1960s.

Third Gear

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GM why hast thou forsaken me?

HPP

Any FWD.

ActionJack

Thanks for the correction 'DMNSPD', I was not certain which but guessed it was Mitsubishi.

badjuju342

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The '80s Chevy Nova was a Toyota . Just a bit of trivia there.