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jcollege

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Mehh not a huge fan of the front, but the rest of the car looks pretty solid.

Scott96LT1

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I like the exterior a lot. Depending on how ATS performs, I'm looking out for the V variant. Turbo 3.6, 6-speed manual and AWD for around or under $50k sounds excellent.

aurora40

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The front looks euro-pedestrian-impact-standard, but other than the tall grill it looks good. Hopefully it's light. The rear door is pretty small. It looks to have HUD, which is cool.

aurora40

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3,400 lbs, according to jalopnik.

Scott96LT1

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I was hoping 3300 at least for the base turbo-4 cyl. I forget the curb weight on BMW 3-series, but I remember it being a little less that 3400 lbs.

Big Bu Bu

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The E90/92 series BMWs M3s are a tad over 3700 lbs.

rand49er

Probably a bit over 3,400 for an aluminum 6.2L, 470 hp LS motor?

Can't wait to see upper and lower mesh grills on one.

KamaSutra

I think it looks great, the lines are more refined and the new CUE system looks good. It would be nice if the speedo/tach guages look like they weren't from late 80's with an a center LCD out of nowhere.

liqidvenom

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under 3400lbs is a serious nice low weight for a modern 4 door vehicle. I dont know any luxury 4 door vehicles that weight that little.

BMW 328i 3362 (3428) lbs man/auto


Thats pretty spot on for taking the fight to the class leader.

SSmokd U

Not really a fan of the headlights running up on the fenders like that but other than that it looks good. I like the exhaust exits being closer together on the bumper.

aurora40

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All the GM releases say it will be "under 3,400" as the base weight. There's also one that mentions the ATS V6 has a power/weight ratio of 10.8, and an estimated 320 horsepower. This would suggest a 3,456 lbs weight for the V6 ATS. Which personally I think is pretty good.

If they make a V version, and the V version is within 200 lbs of the base car, that would be a 3,550-3,600 lbs ATS-V. If it has more than 400hp, I think it will be an absolute winner.

NOLAG05

So if they do a "V" version... would you prefer supercharged like the current or a twin or single turbo setup... I think the ATS may have an AWD option, which to me coming from a boosted AWD owner(Subaru STi) it will be pretty sick!!

aurora40

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I'd prefer an NA motor and RWD.

I wonder if the loss of the Performance Division matters in terms of an ATS-V being developed at all. All previous 'V's were done by them. Though GM is doing the ZL1 presumably without that group existing, so maybe it doesn't matter.

liqidvenom

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The people are still there, just the group isnt there. The ZL1 is a sign they can build a better vehicle without only people from that group.

itsslow98

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Id like to see an AWD direct injection TT V6. After seeing how well the TT BMWs can do with minor mods and also how successful the Ford ECOBOOST line is I think its something GM needs to do.

aurora40

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What fast Ford Ecoboost vehicles are there?

NOLAG05

Livernois did some simple stuff to one and it beat a new 5.0...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LoB...e_gdata_player

and here is one beating up on an Audi at the track...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxzL2...e_gdata_player

JD03Cobra

Even Ford Flex's running mid to low 13's at the 2:22 mark of the video...Eco Boost motor wakes up big time with minimal mods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FGf5sjoGE

aurora40

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I don't mean any offense to any Ecoboost fans, but if Cadillac comes out with an ATS-V for ~2014, and with mods it only runs mid/low 13's, I would not be impressed.

Sure that's fast compared to the gen 1 V, but it isn't generally thought of as a fast 1/4 mile car. Maybe in 2004, but we're talking 10 years later. And the SHO is likely slower than the 1/4 numbers suggest, since it has AWD. Vs the V which is more a 2nd half car. Looking at some other videos, the "worlds fastest" SHO is only turning in ~110mph trap speeds. Not to knock it, but that isn't my definition of "fast".

If they make an ATS-V, I would expect it to be close to the current CTS-V in acceleration. At likely 500lbs less, an ATS-V would need about 480hp to match the power/weight ratio.