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Old 06-30-2014, 03:35 PM
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So I have been just looking at motors and came to the realization that in the long run my LS6 will not like boost the way I'd like it to. So I have changed my mind and I'm going to build an iron 6.0. It would be better for me to just build what I want and pay it off. Now I'm going to do the Edelbrock E-force supercharger because it yields better numbers than the Maggie in everything I've seen. If I'm wrong show me but if I'm forking over that much money I want more power than 120hp. I just want to see if anyone else has used this block and see what input y'all have. I want to do full forged internals and stroke it but I'm only assuming this block it a replica to the LS2 block. What parts should i get along with this block cause I'm going to build this and put it into my car when its complete. I can't take down my daily driver longer than a couple days. I appreciate any input guys.

The Iron LS 6.0
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...5-30/overview/

The E-force for a LS2
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ed...FZJbfgodIHIAzg
Old 06-30-2014, 04:43 PM
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If you can go witht the LS3 heads, Better flow and you can see get a e-force kit.
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Thatll be a 370 or a 408... curious how this will turn out
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I just built an iron 6.0 actually, it's a 370, getting broken in within the next couple of weeks, then the turbo is going on this winter.
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Originally Posted by lumberjackhering
So I have changed my mind and I'm going to build an iron 6.0. It would be better for me to just build what I want and pay it off.
not to derail the info part of this thread, but you are gonna finance an engine build on a daily driver? Really?
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LOL yeah that sounds like a gamble
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Oh I'm literally putting together a list and buying the parts and slowly assembling it in my spare time and if my daily driver is also my track car Because racecar
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lol insert hashtag above..^

Just as long as racecar is paid for before racecar breaks something else and costs more money...thats what I was commenting about

I look forward to reading on your build! what else do you have in mind for it? Specifics yet?
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Originally Posted by Becker
lol insert hashtag above..^

Just as long as racecar is paid for before racecar breaks something else and costs more money...thats what I was commenting about

I look forward to reading on your build! what else do you have in mind for it? Specifics yet?
I will plan on financing a little bit but I'm trying to be sponsored and go to a ton of shows and races but I have to front some of the cost for some of it. I really have been looking at building the alum ls6 but in the end it would be better to build an iron monster. The details I'm trying to get from others experiments and see what worked and didnt.
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I see. As much as I love NA. It seems boost is the route to go to make big power...

I think about doing heads and cam or intake on my ls2 but If I do decide to build up this car I will probably go boost fully forged on a different block. Just so I can build it slowly

Can't decide if I want to dump money into this car yet...
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Originally Posted by Becker
Can't decide if I want to dump money into this car yet...
The answer is always yes. I originally wasn't planning anything more than bolt-ons/tune...then someone convinced me to do a cam since they helped me with install. You should see my mod dreamsheet now...a bit different than it was 6 months ago.
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Well as of a month ago I was just going to build NA and try get 500 with just motor but now boost is more viable
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That's all I want. LS3 with FAST intake and big boy cam will be pretty good power. I don't need mind-numbing power.
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I think 650whp on a solid drive train reliable driver is what I want
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Well I want to stoke it and get some mean pistons. I may have Tick Performance grind me a custom cam for this motor its going to directly suited for boost becasue i plan on bumping the supercharger up a couple psi at a time to see how much i can push I just get parts to look into
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I don't think with the power levels you are talking you would gain anything going with the iron block. I would just get an LS2/3; but if you are just trying to save money on the block, well that is understandable.

I personally think a turbo'd engine is far more reliable than a NA when comparing the same hp.

I want to get a 427 for mine, but I will be fine with an stroked LS2...lol

In for the the build!
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650rwhp? That's gonna be nose-to-*** mods, with lots of boost. Hope you got deep pockets.
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Originally Posted by 54inches
I don't think with the power levels you are talking you would gain anything going with the iron block. I would just get an LS2/3; but if you are just trying to save money on the block, well that is understandable.

I personally think a turbo'd engine is far more reliable than a NA when comparing the same hp.

I want to get a 427 for mine, but I will be fine with an stroked LS2...lol

In for the the build!
I'm going with the iron so that I can bump the boost up higher and not blow the motor. the last thing I want to do it have alum block and bump the boot up to 15 or so and throw things
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While I understand the premise of the iron blocks being stronger than aluminum, at the power levels you're discussing, I don't believe you'll ever run into any issues that the aluminum block can't handle.

Also, don't forget that when using an iron block in the V, you have to have some custom motor mount plates fabbed up.
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Originally Posted by DarkCharisma
650rwhp? That's gonna be nose-to-*** mods, with lots of boost. Hope you got deep pockets.
Really? I have seen built/boosted ls6's running a D1SC do that. Have seen a 383 C5 make 750+ @ (I think 18 psi) That's the aluminum block with forged rods and pistons with ported 243's and an intake. Not all high HP builds empty pockets.


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