10.86 @ 127 with the only mod being drag radials
04-02-2015, 03:49 PM
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Yowza! There's no doubting that these things are fast. From what I've heard through the grapevine, a lot of the vids and stories of it being less-than-spectacular are mostly due to the need for a driver mod. There's actually a funny but accurate YouTube video where a guy spells out a few of the major things that people are doing wrong when they're trying to drive these cars fast... look it up if you have a minute. 
04-02-2015, 06:28 PM
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04-03-2015, 06:56 AM
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You know, I was wondering that. Because I hadn't seen people getting booted lately.
Thanks! Good to know if my puny V1 ever gets to the 10's I won't have to add weight
To the above video with the zo6, it clearly needs a driver mod. I also love how they termed it annihilate
that race should be very even with the whole power to weight aspect. It's good to see that with some traction given to both cars, from a dig the vette wins, and I'd bet the hellcat never catches it. Aerodynamics and all. What is the rated top speed of both cars? Last edited by NIKDSC5; 04-03-2015 at 07:04 AM.
04-03-2015, 10:25 AM
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04-03-2015, 12:15 PM
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With the Vette having 650 HP and weighing in at 3558 ( according to Car & Driver mag ) and with the Hellcat having only 57 more HP at 707 and weighing 4469 that puts the weight difference at a little over 900 lbs. in favor of Vette so not sure that the race should be " very even with the whole power to weight aspect " as you have suggested.
As for top speed the Hellcat's is reported to be 199 MPH ( 204 mph for the Charger ) while the Vette's is only 186 mph( hard to believe that's not a typo mistake from Chevrolet ).
04-03-2015, 12:39 PM
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911 pounds for 57 HP is a close race. 6.32 lbs per HP in the dodge, 5.47 in the vette. Lot of variables here, drivetrain loss (standard v auto) aerodynamic wind resistance etc etc. Lets not forget the same torque figure in both cars* My point was the hell cat may very well win, but not by much.
The top speed issue as I understand it is the rear wing on the vette. Apparently creates a **** load of drag (kinda counter my previous argument there). The ZR1 did 205 with 630 so no reason why the zo6 cannot do the same with aerodynamic hindrances removed.
As for the driver mod thats easy. Look at those 1/4 mile times. The guy driving that vette is damn near a pro at the strip. Other novice drivers in that car modded and tuned are on youtube hitting 11 flat area. Look at the C6 Z, people hit 10.8 in that stock. You would think it is as easy as mashing the gas, but apparently it is not.
I do look forward to more Z/hellcat stock for stock showing up in the future.
Car and driver @ road Atlanta: Vette :1:29 Hellcat (can't seem to find it) For the more than straight line people.
The top speed issue as I understand it is the rear wing on the vette. Apparently creates a **** load of drag (kinda counter my previous argument there). The ZR1 did 205 with 630 so no reason why the zo6 cannot do the same with aerodynamic hindrances removed.
As for the driver mod thats easy. Look at those 1/4 mile times. The guy driving that vette is damn near a pro at the strip. Other novice drivers in that car modded and tuned are on youtube hitting 11 flat area. Look at the C6 Z, people hit 10.8 in that stock. You would think it is as easy as mashing the gas, but apparently it is not.
I do look forward to more Z/hellcat stock for stock showing up in the future.
Car and driver @ road Atlanta: Vette :1:29 Hellcat (can't seem to find it) For the more than straight line people.
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Not hard to believe you have no clue what aero is.
Also, now this is what I call impressive:
Hellcat Charger Hits Sacramento Raceway - YouTube
All 707
conspiring to get it down to a blistering 12.7 ET! Excuses inbound!
Also, now this is what I call impressive:
Hellcat Charger Hits Sacramento Raceway - YouTube
All 707
conspiring to get it down to a blistering 12.7 ET! Excuses inbound!Just as you have no clue when it comes to a 900+ weight advantage.
04-05-2015, 08:40 PM
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Dodge has had some badass cars come out. I mean when a muscle car can outrun GM's top of the line vette in a roll race you are doing something right. And a sedan that can run tens off the showroom floor for sub 60k is amazing. And fruitsalad I guess spinning halfway down the track don't mean much to you. I got my old 392 to run a 12.47 @ 114 mph.
04-06-2015, 06:36 PM
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Dodge has had some badass cars come out. I mean when a muscle car can outrun GM's top of the line vette in a roll race you are doing something right. And a sedan that can run tens off the showroom floor for sub 60k is amazing. And fruitsalad I guess spinning halfway down the track don't mean much to you. I got my old 392 to run a 12.47 @ 114 mph.
IMO, running a 12.47 @ 114mph normally aspirated in a heavy car like a Mopar is pretty good number.
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