bmylez

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I saw a few people having a discussion in one of the facebook groups about how much it would take, on a "budget" of sorts, to run 10s (yes, even a 10.99) in a V1. A couple people claimed $20k, which sounded a tad low to me, so I set out to make a list and compare notes with a couple people. These are mostly retail prices and people should try to keep close to it when making suggestions. It's not fair to say that your friend can fabricate you up whatever part for 1/4 of the cost, because 80-90% of people do not have that option. The intent of this post is to come to an agreement on what any person who can wrench on his own car, but does not have hook-ups, can expect to pay to build a 10 second V1. I've put together a shareable Google spreadsheet that you can comment on for ease of use. Any and all input welcomed!

-------------RETAIL PRICES-----------------

With E-Force & Nitrous
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Creative Steel 8.8 with upgraded CVs/stock DS 4175
Alum. motor mounts, trans mount, rear control arm bushings, cradle bushings 600
Hurst shifter + rail bushings 300
MT 265/40/18 radials 600
Nitrous (150-200 shot) 1500
E-Force (assuming additional parts, etc) 7000
Fuel pump 200
OBX Headers 600
Tune 450
Monster LT1-S + slave cyl 1200
Voodoochikin DS bearing (includes shipping) 500
Exhaust work (muffler delete/x-pipe) 200
Powerbond balancer + ARP bolt (will be more if overdriven pulley needed) 220
DIY intake 75
Ground Control sleeves/seats + drag springs 600

Total 18220


With H/C/I & Nitrous
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Creative Steel 8.8 with upgraded CVs/stock DS 4175
Alum. motor mounts, trans mount, rear control arm bushings, cradle bushings 600
Hurst shifter + rail bushings 300
"For LS6: Advanced Induction (or similar, quality company) ported, stock heads, FAST 102 intake

For LS2: LS3 heads/intake (1200)" 2000
Cam kit (valve springs come with heads) 650
Injectors + fuel pump 800
MT 265/40/18 radials 600
Nitrous (150-200 shot) 1500
OBX Headers 600
Tune 450
Monster LT1-S + slave cyl 1200
Voodoochikin DS bearing (includes shipping) 500
Exhaust work (muffler delete/x-pipe) 200
Powerbond balancer + ARP bolt 220
DIY intake 75
Ground Control sleeves/seats + drag springs 600

Total 14470



-----------------USED PRICES--------------
823 heads 500 used, 1400 AI porting 1900 total minus 450 from stock heads. So 1450
TDP stage 2 Trans build 1000
McLeod RXT 900
Stock shaft/voodoo chicken 400
8.8 self built junk yard parts with upgraded axles 2,800
4" crank used forum 500
6.125" rods used forum 400
Wiesco pistons new 730
Ls7 fast intake 900
Machine work 800
Misc 500
Cam 400
Tune 500
250 shot 1200
Stand alone fuel system 450
Injectors 450
MT 275 DR 600
Rear suspension 400
Bushings for rear 400

Total 14,680

bigti99a

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8.8, tires, bushings, 150-200 shot. 7k or so if you play it right. obviously more if you go for more wants than needs. but i would give it hell for 7k and either make it or break it. although i am not looking to make mine a 10sec car. at least not on purpose.

bmylez

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I'm guessing you didn't look at the spreadsheet. I'll just post it on here to make things simple.

odthetruth

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You'd need 650whp, and the tire setup to put it down on a bias ply. How you get there... well, there's various options. eforce and 150 shot should nail it tbh.

NIKDSC5

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Man this is a fun question. Are we talking doing it in style? While appearing to be a street car...? Or.....going straight strip dedicated? If it's the later then its easy and can be done well under 20k.

Doing it yourself.

Paying a shop to do fab work and make it happen? Well over 20k. Obviously this 20k number doesn't include the car price?

Me, I think I'm going to make it there (including 11,500$ paid for the car) I will be at 10.9 at approx 32k invested. This of course includes many mods not "needed" for just a straight line car. Or with the only goal of 10's. I will also be around 750whp as a goal. That is done with a ton of patience and assembling parts for years and slowly building the car. Approx 4 years.

Edit: Hell, almost exactly 4 years!! I'm hoping to have my car with the charger on done by May. (Fingers crossed) https://ls1tech.com/forums/cadillac-...it-10-9-a.html

bmylez

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I think these two sentences sum it up:
Doesn't include car price, as my speadsheet just shows part prices. Upon further discussion, we realized that RJ (gtistile) hit 10.76 using stock wheels and radials (granted with more power), so I can probably take 5-lug swap and Welds off of there, greatly reducing the cost.

NIKDSC5

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88BlackZ-51

I think thats a waste of $ but thats me. Sell the car and buy a modded one....

bmylez

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Looking at your post, I don't see any parts recommendations at all? I see questions about doing the work yourself, etc. and then you say how you are on your way to having a similar build. I guess that's input, but not what the thread is about?

NIKDSC5

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Yeah. I offer a first hand experience of what the goal of this thread is about and apparently I'm way off the mark. Got it. Good luck with your search.

RockyBalboa

I don't think he asked for anyone's specific opinion. Just how to get into the 10's.

Buying a modded car takes away from the fun of building it yourself.

RockyBalboa

I think NIKDSC5 made a good contribution.

He said how much he's spent, posted link for his thread on a similar question.

If you're curious about parts, look at his signature. (They're all listed there)

88BlackZ-51

It sure does. I've built a few. Its the way to go if you have the extra funds in the savings account.

bmylez

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This list isn't for me specifically, it's a group discussion on what people think it takes to make a 10 sec car with prices to back it up. Someone made a claim that you can build a 10 sec V for under $10k, but did not list how to get there. I'm trying to get past that and get actual pricing and not "Oh yeah, I picked up a twin turbo kit for $1500 from my friend because he didn't need it anymore."

serik21

You can do it close to 12k.
If you have a ls2 v1
Forged 402(for nitrous) rotating Assembly you can probably make it happen for 5k
Ls3 topend 1400
And aggressive cam 800
Gen 4 diff with axles 1600
And subframe bushings 400
200 shot nitrous 1500
Injectors and fuel pump 800
Bap 400
Sticky tires 600
That should get you into high 10's provided you do the labor yourself and I'm sure you can get a better deal on parts.

So 12,500 its very do able. And if you have a gen 4 diff even lower than that.
Will it be reliable all but the diff

bigti99a

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i looked at it. and how i think its a good parts list i dont think everything in there is a need. and everuone will be different. a shifter isnt going to help, you dont need welds and skinnys, etc. i think you can do it for WAY less then your parts list. will a car with all those parts be better or more consistent sure. but if you looking to run a 10 for the time slip and be done with it then i think you can do it for under 10k and if you buy things right closer to the 7-8k.

bmylez

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That would be amazing to see a 10 on a gen 4 diff...not sure how many people are willing to attempt it, haha.

bmylez

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Yeah, I need to update the list since I realized RJ did it on stock wheels with 265/40 radials.

574

Most people overlook how important of a role suspension plays in drag racing

bmylez

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Yeah, not too knowledgeable on what a good drag setup is for this car. I believe RJ used D2 coilovers and set them all the way up, but that doesn't mean it's the best. Then again, that was to fit his 15" slicks, not his radials on stock wheels.