Is the LS7 clutch still the way to go?
08-26-2016, 01:38 PM
#21
BTR has the GM LS7 clutch for $295 retail. Tick has the slave for $195. Pilot can be had for under $20 at RockAuto or even local parts stores. Just FYI before anyone drops the dough on an eBay kit that isn't really a good deal.
***EDIT: whoops. Just realized the eBay kit includes the flywheel too. Are the parts comparable? If so, that is a good deal.
Also when going to the LS7 slave, you should consider this:
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...2004-07-cts-v/
***EDIT: whoops. Just realized the eBay kit includes the flywheel too. Are the parts comparable? If so, that is a good deal.
Also when going to the LS7 slave, you should consider this:
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...2004-07-cts-v/
Last edited by Mercier; 08-26-2016 at 01:47 PM.
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08-26-2016, 01:47 PM
#23
BTR has the GM LS7 clutch for $295 retail. Tick has the slave for $195. Pilot can be had for under $20 at RockAuto or even local parts stores. Just FYI before anyone drops the dough on an eBay kit that isn't really a good deal.
Also when going to the LS7 slave, you should consider this:
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...2004-07-cts-v/
Also when going to the LS7 slave, you should consider this:
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...2004-07-cts-v/
08-26-2016, 01:51 PM
#24
Edited above. Didn't realize until after I posted you were getting a flywheel in that price also. That's hard to beat if the parts really are comparable. On the line, I have one right here but waiting on more parts before finishing he build. Guess I'll know in a month or so if it truly helps or not.
At least interesting that the description indicates specifically "unrestricted" which seems to imply the stock LS7 line is restricted? Might also just be the marketing guys screwing with us.
At least interesting that the description indicates specifically "unrestricted" which seems to imply the stock LS7 line is restricted? Might also just be the marketing guys screwing with us.
08-27-2016, 09:50 AM
#26
That's the LUK PN mentioned above plus a lighter flywheel (about 7lbs lighter than an LS7 piece IIRC) but not aluminum light. Add a remote bleeder and spacer to this kit and you're good to go, right? http://www.tickperformance.com/2004-...illac-cts-v-4/
08-27-2016, 03:21 PM
#27
The tick line was 50 bucks well spent. It fit like a glove and eliminated the chance of bending the line too much, didn't get in the way like the longer line would during install and also decreases the amount of exposed clutch line available to soak up heat during normal operation.
08-29-2016, 11:37 AM
#28
Aside from part numbers and vendor sources, I'll vouch for the longevity and driveability of the C6 setup. I have about 60k on my setup and the slave and clutch itself seem to be holding up well. The 23lb flywheel is good for daily driving, but I probably should have had it balanced before putting it in. It is a little less refined than I think it could be, but then again, so is the rest of the car.
09-05-2016, 02:40 PM
#30
OP - if you've done your research around here, you've probably come across a number of my posts/threads on this topic. I'm now 2+ years of daily driving and monthly "autocross" events (small courses, only about 50-80 second runs, usually hit 2nd gear and stay there) into it without any problems. I certainly had some issues during initial install, but that was my own fault. Once the clutch drag was cured (by a tick slave spacer), all was well; and all remains well.
My "kit" came from eBay from a vendor called "Gripforce". It came complete with 20lb flywheel, LUK clutch, LS7 slave, pilot bearing, seal, etc for somewhere around $500, IIRC. Add the Tick speed bleeder and attention to the finer details regarding pressure plate torque specs, and you're good to go man.
Only improvement I have left is to get Philistine's master cylinder off my workbench and into the car. It's been "marinating" in it's box for about 2 years now. :-(
Here's a link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GF-CLUTCH-KI...5UWS8u&vxp=mtr
My "kit" came from eBay from a vendor called "Gripforce". It came complete with 20lb flywheel, LUK clutch, LS7 slave, pilot bearing, seal, etc for somewhere around $500, IIRC. Add the Tick speed bleeder and attention to the finer details regarding pressure plate torque specs, and you're good to go man.
Only improvement I have left is to get Philistine's master cylinder off my workbench and into the car. It's been "marinating" in it's box for about 2 years now. :-(
Here's a link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GF-CLUTCH-KI...5UWS8u&vxp=mtr
Last edited by wes8398; 09-05-2016 at 02:50 PM.
09-05-2016, 06:30 PM
#32
When I got mine, the "Gripforce" kit was less money than all the other alternatives. And I have pictures (somewhere) to prove that the parts were from LUK/OEM manufacturers (including slave), other than the flywheel. But Rock Auto, etc don't sell a LUK fly either, to my recollection. Rock Auto's lighter fly was made by RAM, IIRC...
OP - welcome to what was my nightmare before I finally pulled the trigger. I read the forums for a full YEAR before I finally decided to. For ANY kit/product, you're going to get reviews from 10/10 to 1/10 and everything between. You just have to take the leap and make sure you take every precaution you can to make sure it's installed correctly.
09-05-2016, 06:59 PM
#33
Staging Lane
I know exactly where you're coming from...I just "upgraded" my stock clutch (90 K, no issues other than a slave), with an LS7). My car is now "lightly" modded, heads, cam, intake system, trans rebuild, etc, etc... The clutch has been wonderful...about the same pedal as stock, absolutely no hint of slippage from whatever start I attempt, positive...just feels good! I'm sure if my car were more serious, there would be better selections; but I'm a hard-core "bang for the buck" guy and this clutch seems to be perfect!
09-05-2016, 07:09 PM
#34
I can't remember what issues you had, but I recall you posting about some. Wasn't it issues with install? Something about over-tourquing the PP bolts or something?
When I got mine, the "Gripforce" kit was less money than all the other alternatives. And I have pictures (somewhere) to prove that the parts were from LUK/OEM manufacturers (including slave), other than the flywheel. But Rock Auto, etc don't sell a LUK fly either, to my recollection. Rock Auto's lighter fly was made by RAM, IIRC...
OP - welcome to what was my nightmare before I finally pulled the trigger. I read the forums for a full YEAR before I finally decided to. For ANY kit/product, you're going to get reviews from 10/10 to 1/10 and everything between. You just have to take the leap and make sure you take every precaution you can to make sure it's installed correctly.
When I got mine, the "Gripforce" kit was less money than all the other alternatives. And I have pictures (somewhere) to prove that the parts were from LUK/OEM manufacturers (including slave), other than the flywheel. But Rock Auto, etc don't sell a LUK fly either, to my recollection. Rock Auto's lighter fly was made by RAM, IIRC...
OP - welcome to what was my nightmare before I finally pulled the trigger. I read the forums for a full YEAR before I finally decided to. For ANY kit/product, you're going to get reviews from 10/10 to 1/10 and everything between. You just have to take the leap and make sure you take every precaution you can to make sure it's installed correctly.
09-05-2016, 07:57 PM
#35
No install issues like over-torqued bolts. You can read my thread if you need a refresher. Rockauto sells the Luk flywheel for $60 as I have a new one sitting in my garage. Between Amazon and Rockauto, you can get the Luk setup for way cheaper than Gripforce, and you have more assurance that they're not OEM "rejects", in my mind.
There is absolutely zero evidence to support that Gripforce is selling "OEM rejects". It's just completely unfounded. I remember the idea coming up in one of the threads I was involved in. If you're going to accept that Gripforce is selling OEM "rejects", than you should be JUST AS willing to accept that ANY vendor (Rock Auto, Amazon, dealerships) might be as well. Garbage.
I don't know about now, but I'm telling you... ALL IN, GRIPFORCE WAS THE CHEAPEST. Belive me dude. I'm probably the most frugal ************ (IE CHEAPEST!) in the V1 world. I went where the price was best (within reason of being comfortable with the quality of the product I was going to get).
Anyway... just passing my .02 on to the OP. My experience with Gripforce and their products was positive. And, at the time, it was the best value.
09-05-2016, 08:40 PM
#36
Maybe prices have changed over the years. Here are screenshots taken 3 min ago:
Rock Auto Luk kit that includes pressure plate, disk, and slave cyl. ~$246
Rock Auto Luk flywheel, $54
Gripforce's site, 2009 Corvette selected, results ordered by lowest price
eBay search for "corvette LS7 clutch" ordered by lowest price
Rock Auto Luk kit that includes pressure plate, disk, and slave cyl. ~$246
Rock Auto Luk flywheel, $54
Gripforce's site, 2009 Corvette selected, results ordered by lowest price
eBay search for "corvette LS7 clutch" ordered by lowest price
09-07-2016, 06:55 AM
#37
yeah I was trying point out that the whole setup including OEM C6 flywheel from rockauto was $300 from rockauto but everybody still wanted to pay $500 from an ebay seller for some reason.
Did the install this weekend and car is driving great, just like you would expect an OEM setup to feel. Clutch pedal is real nice and light with the LS7 setup and the pedal engagement moved from about an inch above the floor after install up to mid-way after only about 100-150 miles. Real happy about how it's feeling so far but am going to wait about 300 miles of city driving before really ripping on it.
Did the install this weekend and car is driving great, just like you would expect an OEM setup to feel. Clutch pedal is real nice and light with the LS7 setup and the pedal engagement moved from about an inch above the floor after install up to mid-way after only about 100-150 miles. Real happy about how it's feeling so far but am going to wait about 300 miles of city driving before really ripping on it.
09-07-2016, 04:40 PM
#39
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Car is done. I'm going to pick up the keys this afternoon. Had a shop do the install, which ended up working out awesome. Aside from not having to drop a transmission in my garage while the car was on jack stands, I didn't have to deal with these misaligned bolts and flywheel.
