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Old 09-23-2016, 11:53 PM
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I really have no idea and am by no means rushing or buying...just furthering the convo.
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Maybe the same part # in catalogue for ring+pinion for a SRX 3.91 swap into V2 Diff?

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In my old BMW times, we can compare part # in online catalogues like 5series with 7series and see if it would be the same!

So can we here also compare a single ring+pinion part # like the 3.73 from V1 with V2?

I did not know where to look at this?

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There are a variety of online GM parts databases. I checked one, and it showed the gear set for the 1st gen CTS was not used in the 2nd gen CTS; it was only used in the 1st gen CTS, SRX, and STS. It's not necessarily a definitive answer, though, as they don't even show the '08+ gear sets being available separately - you have to buy the complete diff assembly.
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Damn it, how can we get the rest of these part numbers (I.e. #5)


http://www.tonkinonlineparts.com/sho...ey_model=15737
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http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/auto-pa...ferential-scat

Ring and pinion, 89058646 for 3.73 in Vs
Old 10-03-2016, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jmilz28
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/auto-pa...ferential-scat the same

Ring and pinion, 89058646 for 3.73 in Vs
No, the second Gen parts.

***Here is a exploded view with, more items and desxriptions, but not all the part numbers.
http://nemiga.com/cat_spares/epc/cad...d/05/6d05-035/

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So the cradle form the v2 is for sure a direct bolt in?
Old 10-13-2016, 01:45 AM
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Subscribing! This is very interesting information.
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Originally Posted by pyro719
So the cradle form the v2 is for sure a direct bolt in?
A cradle from a second gen cts is what you are lookin for, not v2
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Originally Posted by Naf
A cradle from a second gen cts is what you are lookin for, not v2
Uhhh..thread title is "V2 to V1..."
What did I miss?

EDIT: Ah; I see OP wrote "base V2 CTS" so tripped up by an apparent oxymoron. Really we are talking base CTS cradle with V2 drive guts? Would the V2 cradle not work?
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I'm guessing the 2nd gen V cradle (just so we're clear on which one) is the same as the 2nd gen CTS cradle, with just the drive guts being different.

AND 2nd gen CTS cradles are most likely much more prolific/easy to obtain.

BUT this is just my $.02
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Originally Posted by Mercier
Uhhh..thread title is "V2 to V1..."
What did I miss?

EDIT: Ah; I see OP wrote "base V2 CTS" so tripped up by an apparent oxymoron. Really we are talking base CTS cradle with V2 drive guts? Would the V2 cradle not work?
They're identical.

Base CTS:


V2:

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Sorry, I'm braindead to begin with but still don't see how you could get correct 6 lug pattern. "I found that a front wheel bearing hub from an 03 Pontiac Aztek (ironic?) will work. It's 33 spline, 5x115 bolt circle and the speed sensor is the same as ours, but needed to be re-drilled. I welded up two holes and had it drilled to 6x115". You weld or close two holes and redrill 3 more?? Which two? Thanks.
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i don't see the benefit to doing any of this and staying 6 lug...
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Originally Posted by Motown Cad
Sorry, I'm braindead to begin with but still don't see how you could get correct 6 lug pattern. "I found that a front wheel bearing hub from an 03 Pontiac Aztek (ironic?) will work. It's 33 spline, 5x115 bolt circle and the speed sensor is the same as ours, but needed to be re-drilled. I welded up two holes and had it drilled to 6x115". You weld or close two holes and redrill 3 more?? Which two? Thanks.
Many V1 owners are looking to also move to 5-lug to increase their options while decreasing cost for wheels. 6x115 is not common though I have added Kubota small- and mid- sized tractors to the known list.
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Originally Posted by Bio248
i don't see the benefit to doing any of this and staying 6 lug...
unless of course you already own set of 6 lug wheels you like...
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Originally Posted by ls1247
unless of course you already own set of 6 lug wheels you like...
sell them and buy any number of 5 lug wheels that are more than plentiful. you can even have the exact same wheel if you want. it'd be simple to source.
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Originally Posted by Bio248
sell them and buy any number of 5 lug wheels that are more than plentiful. you can even have the exact same wheel if you want. it'd be simple to source.
ahhhh...ok
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Originally Posted by ls1247
ahhhh...ok
well, per quick research it looks like the V1 hubs bolt right in so i'm not entirely sure why we're making it so hard to modify a hub in order to be 6x115 when the stock ones work just fine...

both bolt circle diameters on the inside are 4.567" and 3 hole...so they bolt up. the differences are the speed/ABS sensor (V2 doesn't have it), the bolt pattern for the wheels (5x120 vs 5x115), and the studs being 14mm instead of 12mm.

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