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Old 02-09-2011, 10:42 AM   #1
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Default Axles to Cure Wheelhop

So, I guess a lot has changed since I first started looking at CTS-V's and finally pulled the trigger - Score!

So, back a year ago, Hendrix axles were the ones to get. I can't find them any more...

Now, Chris @ G Force is selling the axles to have.

And after talking to Luke at Lindsay, he said that the BMR pinion brace was a waste of money, and all it does is is transmit noise into the cab.

Is that still accurate?

What about the other parts from BMR? The subframe bushings and a torque arm looking thing:

BMR Wheel Hop Kit

Is that still a needed part? It sounds like axles just about cure it, short of being completely retarded.

On a side note, on a rainy day here (Seattle, go figure) I downshifted from 4-2, and pinned the throttle wide open. It did a slight sideways dance, and was politely greeted with massive wheel hop. This sht needs to get fixed.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:55 AM   #2
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well either of the axle companies will work for u.. i have the BMR stuff and it workks for the most part but still get hop. ive dumped enough money into this car for a while so axles will have to wait till spring. the pinion brace is on mine just incase the diff blows it wont let the DS smack around. thats my opinion.
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Either axle will work. I recommend Gforce. He is an active part of this forum (and the other) and doing some cool stuff for us V guys.
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I think this is relevant ...

Since installing the Hendrix/DSS axles, I've done precious few 3500 RPM clutch dumps on dry pavement, but got zero WH each time even as I bounced off the rev limiter. It just burned.

I got caught in rain once since then, but with the family in the car, I didn't attempt to see if the WH was likewise cured by the axles on wet roads. I do recall it was pronounced in rain and on snow when I was stock ... way back when.

My point is, has anyone noticed WH with the new axles in rain/snow? As an observation, I would presume that such WH isn't as violent as when it's dry ... at least I think.
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My point is, has anyone noticed WH with the new axles in rain/snow? As an observation, I would presume that such WH isn't as violent as when it's dry ... at least I think.
I have not attempted to induce wheelhop when wet. I typically take it easy when the roads are wet. I have done many launches in dry and one time at the track...I have not experienced wheelhop since installing the axles.
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I have not attempted to induce wheelhop when wet. I typically take it easy when the roads are wet. I have done many launches in dry and one time at the track...I have not experienced wheelhop since installing the axles.
I did give it a go on wet surface with the passenger econo/BMR AWH/diff brace. Spun much more like a normal car would... I got a bit of a hop like warble at probably 5mph but nothing like the previous "driving over 10 speed bumps in a row" hop.

Dry though... I never noticed it hop at all. I'll admit I wasn't going out and doing 4K launches on the glass either though.
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Thanks guys.

Has anyone done just the axles and not the BMR brace? I'd like to keep the vibration down in the car.
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Thanks guys.

Has anyone done just the axles and not the BMR brace? I'd like to keep the vibration down in the car.
Here are axles and no brace or other wheel hop band aides.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKFWvowfnU
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It's pretty much the standard to just do the axles. The amount of hop tends to be proportional to rpms when the wheels are spinning. i.e. I used to get hop at 3000 rpms in the dry and 2000 in the wet. With just the Hendrix econo axle it went to 4000 in the dry. I have since installed both Gforce axles and it doesn't start to hop until the rpms spin up to 5000 rpms in the dry and about 3500 in the wet.
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Give hendrix a call, I reccomend them much more then anyone else.
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Both axles are 300m? Id like to support a site vender. How's the customer service for either one?
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itsslow98 and I have had completely opposite customer service from the two vendors. He had a good experience with Hendrix and I had a good experience with Gforce. We've had bad experiences with the other.
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Hendrix is currently banned form this site and not a supporter on the Cadillac forum...I say go with Gforce.

Either way you will get rid of the majority of your wheel hop.
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How the hell did that happen?
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How the hell did that happen?
"Collections Ban" is all his profile says. He dropped off the Cadillac Forums a while back.
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Hey, all i gotta say is just cause a shop doesnt have someone on the forums everyday doesnt mean they dont turn a good product. If having someone posting on 18 forums a day means more then the product you put on your car, then good luck with that ****.

Bottom line, im gonna put on my car whatever product i think suits me and works the best, not who advertises the most and who belongs to a certain website. If you think Gforce is for you then by all means do it.
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^^^

So how did those comments help me make a decision in what kind of axle to buy?

Being a noob, I'd like to get some feedback on what people are running. From the time I started looking for a V, Hendrix was here, and now they are banned. I had no idea if they didn't pay, **** somebody off, or was selling broke dick parts.

Tell you what, I gave Hendrix a call, since I can't find any prices anywhere, nor lead times on parts.

I haven't heard back all day. Hopefully they call back tomorrow.
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Im running the hendrix econo axle on the drivers side, no wheelhop on the street at all and have never had a problem with the product period. For 350 bucks it was some of the best money ive ever spent on the car.
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dr speed who tuned your cts-v im also from seattle
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