Who did H&R's and got the perfect height!!!!!
Who did H&R's and got the perfect height!!!!! 
06-22-2011, 10:18 PM
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Who's the dude photo-bombing pic 3? lol
By the way, I've got a few threads (3 or 4) on the topic of H&R's that you might wanna read. Looks like your drop was a bit different than mine ...
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It wasn't the spacers that lowered ya, it was the springs .. although those spacers KEPT ya lowered in pic 2.
By the way, I've got a few threads (3 or 4) on the topic of H&R's that you might wanna read. Looks like your drop was a bit different than mine ...
PS -
It wasn't the spacers that lowered ya, it was the springs .. although those spacers KEPT ya lowered in pic 2.
06-22-2011, 10:23 PM
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Please add me to your list. I modified my rear suspension mounts from what H&R used in their testing and am now complaining with the results. It is too low.
Please advise.
Please advise.
06-22-2011, 10:45 PM
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Who's the dude photo-bombing pic 3? lol
By the way, I've got a few threads (3 or 4) on the topic of H&R's that you might wanna read. Looks like your drop was a bit different than mine ...
PS -
It wasn't the spacers that lowered ya, it was the springs .. although those spacers KEPT ya lowered in pic 2.
By the way, I've got a few threads (3 or 4) on the topic of H&R's that you might wanna read. Looks like your drop was a bit different than mine ...
PS -
It wasn't the spacers that lowered ya, it was the springs .. although those spacers KEPT ya lowered in pic 2.
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06-22-2011, 10:48 PM
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The spacers KEEP you lowered when the car is moving, which is when the Nivomats are active and would otherwise be pumping it back up to OEM ride height. That's why.
06-22-2011, 11:03 PM
#11
What's "too much" to you? Facts are getting lost in translation here. Let's forget about "too much". I'm saying that MY H&R's (and other member's) gave way more of a drop than they advertised. Period. The only other thing I'm saying is that it's NOT because of the MM spacers either, it's because of the springs. If it were the spacers that were 'making' my car lower, then my taller springs (cut OEM's) would have been pushed down to the same height at the H&R's were. The fact is, the taller springs resulted in a taller ride height. See what I'm saying?
I'm not trying to pick fights here and I'm really trying not to litter this place with back and fourth BS pissing contests. What I AM doing is trying to make sure that the right information is out there for the next guy that comes along wanting to lower his V.
I'm not trying to pick fights here and I'm really trying not to litter this place with back and fourth BS pissing contests. What I AM doing is trying to make sure that the right information is out there for the next guy that comes along wanting to lower his V.
06-22-2011, 11:05 PM
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I dont see how you can compare a cut stock spring to an aftermarket spring. Just because the actual sring is taller means absolutely nothing. Its not an apples to apples comparison.
I will measure a stock V and mine on saturday and post results.
I will measure a stock V and mine on saturday and post results.
06-22-2011, 11:50 PM
#14
By taller springs, I didn't mean physically taller when set beside each other on the garage floor. I just meant springs that achieved a taller ride height.
The whole point is that I kept the MM spacers installed, put different springs in (it doesn't matter whether they were cut or not), and got a taller ride height. This is the pudding that proves that the MM spacers are NOT what determine your ride height. It's the SPRING. MM spacers don't lower you. The spring lowers you. The MM spacer KEEPS you lowered when you're moving and the shocks are trying to auto level.
The whole point is that I kept the MM spacers installed, put different springs in (it doesn't matter whether they were cut or not), and got a taller ride height. This is the pudding that proves that the MM spacers are NOT what determine your ride height. It's the SPRING. MM spacers don't lower you. The spring lowers you. The MM spacer KEEPS you lowered when you're moving and the shocks are trying to auto level.
06-23-2011, 12:06 AM
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they both play a factor..... That's what you gotta understand. There should be no fighting match at all. The plain fact that H&R, Eibach..... Whatever Asian spring you put in your car, before and after MM spacers they are going to have a different ride height each time...... end of story. That's why they are sold. For people that dont get the full drop from regular springs.
06-23-2011, 01:47 PM
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The spacers themselves don't determine ride height.. They keep the SHOCKS from affecting your ride height. All dependent on relative drop amounts of course. I'm pretty happy with the drop I got from H&Rs and the MM spacers. Like I said before I'll probably shim up the rear by just less than half an inch to get uniform wheel gap front and back, just because I'm super ****. Honestly I could live with the way it is now and be perfectly happy.
I was re-reading a long PDF file that I have that explains how the nimovat shocks work, and some of the details in there really illustrate why the MM spacers allow the rear to sit lower. Biggest factor that affects ride height from the nimovats is that the further you compress them, the more they start to act like a spring themselves, meaning that when you artificially compress the shock further than it's original design intended, (i.e. lowering springs with no spacers) it begins to act like a spring itself, partially supporting the rear weight of the car, and thus keeping the ride height higher than it would be if the same springs were used with non-leveling shocks. It also said that once the rear shocks have reached their "happy place" after driving around, it can be a long time before they re-settle because of the tight internal tolerances of the various valves and chambers. So it's entirely possible that one could be driving around with a rear end that's perpetually "pumped up" by the rear shocks and not ever see or notice the suspension settling to a lower point.
I was re-reading a long PDF file that I have that explains how the nimovat shocks work, and some of the details in there really illustrate why the MM spacers allow the rear to sit lower. Biggest factor that affects ride height from the nimovats is that the further you compress them, the more they start to act like a spring themselves, meaning that when you artificially compress the shock further than it's original design intended, (i.e. lowering springs with no spacers) it begins to act like a spring itself, partially supporting the rear weight of the car, and thus keeping the ride height higher than it would be if the same springs were used with non-leveling shocks. It also said that once the rear shocks have reached their "happy place" after driving around, it can be a long time before they re-settle because of the tight internal tolerances of the various valves and chambers. So it's entirely possible that one could be driving around with a rear end that's perpetually "pumped up" by the rear shocks and not ever see or notice the suspension settling to a lower point.
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06-23-2011, 02:37 PM
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