422 RWHP / 383 RWTQ - Dyno Tune @ Slowhawk - Results!
08-11-2012, 11:49 AM
#21
By the way, did anyone see the picture of my CTS-V with the yellow microfiber cloth on the fender and think that the juxtaposition of colors looked cool? If I wasn't such a wuss, I might ask someone to paint a double yellow stripe up the fender and across the hood. Of course, if I did that, I'd also have to get my calipers powdercoated the same yellow hue. At that point, I'd probably be hundreds of dollars in the hole.
Maybe I can find some kind of removable self-adhesive tape to mock it up on the car and see how it looks.
Maybe I can find some kind of removable self-adhesive tape to mock it up on the car and see how it looks.
08-11-2012, 02:50 PM
#30
Jannetty advanced timing way too much--a common mistake when you have a DynoJet that can't simulate vehicle loading and you don't do in-vehicle data logging/tuning to compensate. Don showed me by running my car at about 21 and 26 degrees of timing advance. On the latter, I lost about 10 RWHP. More timing does not necessarily mean more power.
Finally, Janetty shut off all of my misfire sensors and increased the rev limiter to 7000 RPM. Bad idea on a stock motor. In retrospect, that's probably the only reason why I was able to put this cam in the car without dropping into reduced power mode. At least they installed the exhaust bung in the right place.
That's about all I can say. I wish Don were here to answer your question--I probably made a mess of all of this.
Last edited by FuzzyLog1c; 08-11-2012 at 03:19 PM.
08-28-2012, 07:01 PM
#33
Figured I'd throw a quick update in here. I think I owe you guys an in-car video to show the throttle response with the cam, but I've been having trouble isolating my CruiseCam mount from the Sony A65 microphone. Might have to buy an external shotgun microphone.
Now that the car is tuned, the lopey cam sound is almost entirely gone. I think this makes the TRuTorq L3 cam a prime choice for anyone who wants the biggest cam they can get without deviating too far from that stock rumble.
Short walkaround in 1080p below. Should have a much fuller set of pictures and video come Labor Day weekend. Maybe I'll even put the Forgestar F14s on--or maybe angry forum users wanting piano black pictures will tar and feather me--who knows??!
Now that the car is tuned, the lopey cam sound is almost entirely gone. I think this makes the TRuTorq L3 cam a prime choice for anyone who wants the biggest cam they can get without deviating too far from that stock rumble.
Short walkaround in 1080p below. Should have a much fuller set of pictures and video come Labor Day weekend. Maybe I'll even put the Forgestar F14s on--or maybe angry forum users wanting piano black pictures will tar and feather me--who knows??!
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05-01-2013, 11:09 AM
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You'd have to ask Don for all of the details, but from what I could gather, the timing tables were messed up for several reasons. Apparently, Janetty's base tune has some fundamental bugs including a bad max torque value that other variables rely on.
Jannetty advanced timing way too much--a common mistake when you have a DynoJet that can't simulate vehicle loading and you don't do in-vehicle data logging/tuning to compensate. Don showed me by running my car at about 21 and 26 degrees of timing advance. On the latter, I lost about 10 RWHP. More timing does not necessarily mean more power.
Finally, Janetty shut off all of my misfire sensors and increased the rev limiter to 7000 RPM. Bad idea on a stock motor. In retrospect, that's probably the only reason why I was able to put this cam in the car without dropping into reduced power mode. At least they installed the exhaust bung in the right place.
That's about all I can say. I wish Don were here to answer your question--I probably made a mess of all of this.
Jannetty advanced timing way too much--a common mistake when you have a DynoJet that can't simulate vehicle loading and you don't do in-vehicle data logging/tuning to compensate. Don showed me by running my car at about 21 and 26 degrees of timing advance. On the latter, I lost about 10 RWHP. More timing does not necessarily mean more power.
Finally, Janetty shut off all of my misfire sensors and increased the rev limiter to 7000 RPM. Bad idea on a stock motor. In retrospect, that's probably the only reason why I was able to put this cam in the car without dropping into reduced power mode. At least they installed the exhaust bung in the right place.
That's about all I can say. I wish Don were here to answer your question--I probably made a mess of all of this.
First I did NOT advance your timing At all your timing Map is Stock for a basically stock car with headers, I did a full Maf calibration, Torque management, speed limiter and rev limiter adjustments, fan settings, skip shift, codes for headers, Rev limiter is set at 6800 which is only 200 over stock Normal for this type of tune.
Everything was logged and No Knock retard was recorded, 370 RWHP is Pretty impressive for an LS2 with Headers and a CAI.
Tune files are here for all to see and compare JRE to Stock http://www.jannettyracing.com/RYANSTEINDELJRE.hpt
http://www.jannettyracing.com/RYANSTEINDEL.hpt
Secondly your Dyno tune did not cost 800.00 Dollars, Your Total Bill was 639.06 which included, 100.00 for HPtuner licensing, an O2 Bung and Plug, Welded in your exhaust for AFR Readings 20.09, Repairing your Chassis brace that was hitting your headers, and fixing a vacuum leak 75.00, the Dyno Tune 400.00 and CT Sales Tax 38.16
It is Not often I refuse to work with someone but you are So difficult I chose not to work with your ever again, If your Mad find another way to deal with it than Spread Lies.
You were treated Nothing but professionally when you were here back in 7/2011
If anyone wants to know Ryan installed his own clutch and mismatched clutch parts, When my mechanic first got in the car to bring it in the bay to weld the O2 bung in and fix the chassis brace, He immediately reported the Clutch did not work right, I reported this to you and you said it is fine, When my other Tech put the car on the dyno reported the clutch does not feel right it won't go in gear, I told you and you said it needs to break in, I disagreed, When I was on the dyno with the Car I again told you there is something wrong with your clutch and you told me it's fine just might have to bleed it one more time, I disagreed.
I did not want to drive the car with the clutch like this I had to start the car in gear to prevent Harsh engagement, and did not feel a road test for such a simple tune was necessary.
After everything was done and you drove out of here, you came back like a Raving maniac Accusing us of doing something to your clutch which is totally absurd!!!
I even offered to Bleed your clutch for you and did so at NO CHARGE to no avail, I explained that you had the wrong parts on the car and you refused to listen to a 35 Year Tech and insisted we did something to your clutch and threatened to charge back your credit car and left here like a complete Fool.
By the Way you were so Happy with your JRE tune that you contacted me and told me so, then asked If I would be willing to tune again for a cam you would be installing.
I don't need this kind of Drama, So when you asked me to Retune your car for the cam, I thought about it, Pretty hard and after talking it over with my Staff We all Agreed Your a Customer JRE does not Want or need.
Sorry it has to be this way, Look at it this way your only 1 of 4 people in 27 years in business that I have asked not to return so your Famous around here.
Ted.
Last edited by JANNETTYRACING; 05-01-2013 at 11:23 AM.
05-01-2013, 01:15 PM
#40
That 10 AM tune appointment turned into a fiasco as he botched the couple's Corvette tune, blamed it on their NGK TR-6 plugs, charged them several hundred dollars to acquire stock plugs from a local dealership, and ultimately still couldn't diagnose/fix the problem. The shop contained 100% irritated/unhappy customers by the end of that evening. Ted made a great big scene, screaming outside of his shop when I brought the car back while his wrench monkeys sneakily tried to send me on my way by greasing my shifter linkage. Professional, my ***.
If anyone thinks that reading me pick apart Janetty's recollection of the facts would be educational, let me know. Otherwise, I think the facts are pretty well-known, and I don't particularly feel the need to argue this out with him for the third or fourth time.
By the way, I don't have HP Tuners, so I can't read that file, but I believe that my rev limiter was set to 7,000 because a) Janetty told me he set it there and b) I hit it a half-dozen times. Everything else regarding the tune (like the knock sensors that were disabled) is based on Slowhawk's diagnosis. It's not worth starting a war between two shops, but it would be interesting to get the backup from Slowhawk and compare it against that file for authenticity.
Last edited by FuzzyLog1c; 05-01-2013 at 01:36 PM.
