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Old 01-20-2013, 08:25 PM
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I currently have a Volant CAI and the filter that comes with it is tiny IMO so I want to upgrade it a touch.

Here is what I have now: http://volant.com/edetail.asp?ID=56&ptype=f




Here is what I'm considering:

Volant: http://www.volant.com/edetail.asp?ID=68&ptype=f

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K&N: http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=RU-3050

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Spectre: http://www.spectreperformance.com/in...tall-blue.html

Spectre also has a 7": http://www.spectreperformance.com/in...tall-blue.html


All are about the same price (I could sell my current unused one for same as these cost so it will be about a direct swap). Question is any opinions on the better brand or just filter is a filter is a filter...?
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Id go back to a stock intake box with the paper filter and do a homeade elbow to the TB. No heat soak issues and you wont lose the airflow the gains are made from the tube.
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This is what I'm running currently. No complaints.

AFE POWER 24-91054 PRO 5R AIR FILTER
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Originally Posted by DACTARI
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If you have a Lingenfelter airbox, try an AMSOIL EaAU 6080 or 6081 (1" flange or 0.625" flange). It's FAR better than your typical cellulose filter, based on oil particulate analysis bought and paid for by a fellow CTS-V owner. The 6081 will definitely fit, based on conversations with people that have them--I don't know about the 6080.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...a-air-filters/

Brad (C66Racing) is an authorized retailer and will give you a couple of bucks off. While you're at it, ask him about the Preferred Customer Program, which costs about $20/year and is totally worthwhile if you buy more than 3 gallons of oil per year. You might as well pick up 12 quarts of AMSOIL Dominator 10W-30 while you're at it.

The Spectre 9604 is a great addition. Also recommend buying an AMSOIL EaPF15 pre-filter to knock out some of that large diameter debris before it screws up the delicate layers in the EaAU 6081.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Id go back to a stock intake box with the paper filter and do a homeade elbow to the TB. No heat soak issues and you wont lose the airflow the gains are made from the tube.
Yeah if I had it to do over again I never would have wasted a dime on a CAI (had a K&N before this), but that's true of several things I did when I first got the car 4 years ago. Personally I like the Volant box better than the stock intake box, easier to clean and just looks better and I sold my stock box years ago. Also not really thrilled about dealing with swapping out paper filters when all I need to do with this is run it under warm water.

All that said I want to get my ride back on the dyno after I put my FAST 90 intake on and see where my numbers are. If I see a dip then I'll pull the Volant tube and stick one of those silicon tubes like fuzzy has.

My rationale with the filter size is too small can cause restriction but too big can't hurt so why not go bigger especially when it won't cost me anything. Maybe I'm just chasing snake oil but figured while the car is up on blocks for a few more weeks might as well swap!
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLog1c
If you have a Lingenfelter airbox, try an AMSOIL EaAU 6080 or 6081 (1" flange or 0.625" flange). It's FAR better than your typical cellulose filter, based on oil particulate analysis bought and paid for by a fellow CTS-V owner. The 6081 will definitely fit, based on conversations with people that have them--I don't know about the 6080.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...a-air-filters/

Brad (C66Racing) is an authorized retailer and will give you a couple of bucks off. While you're at it, ask him about the Preferred Customer Program, which costs about $20/year and is totally worthwhile if you buy more than 3 gallons of oil per year. You might as well pick up 12 quarts of AMSOIL Dominator 10W-30 while you're at it.

The Spectre 9604 is a great addition. Also recommend buying an AMSOIL EaPF15 pre-filter to knock out some of that large diameter debris before it screws up the delicate layers in the EaAU 6081.
Oh word, thank you! Exactly what I was looking for!
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Originally Posted by etcts-v
Oh word, thank you! Exactly what I was looking for!
BTW--if Brad's inbox is full, I've got his email address.
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When I first installed my Maggie I had it going to the intake box. I took it to get dyno tuned and the tuner said the airflow was horrible. I removed the airbox and put an cone filter on it and he said doing so improved it dramatically and it was able to get more power out of the car. Before then, you couldn't tell me a CAI was beneficial, but now I think otherwise.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Id go back to a stock intake box with the paper filter and do a homeade elbow to the TB. No heat soak issues and you wont lose the airflow the gains are made from the tube.
Do you have any pics or links of a setup like this? I'm looking to get a new tune in the next month for my cam set up and would like to get rid of the squished stock one. I was thinking about taking a heat gun to it and reforming the t-shaped section on the bottom.

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Stock box with snorkel removed, K&N drop in and fast acting IAT in the box. I'd put this up against a mass produced intake anyday at half the price.

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And I'd laugh in your face.
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLog1c
And I'd laugh in your face.
Why do you say that ?
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found it

https://ls1tech.com/forums/cadillac-...tube-help.html
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Total of the parts was $92 shipped from a vendor that I'm not sure is a sponsor or not. PM for info.
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semi on topic:

saw a thread elsewhere regarding this, has anybody had any experience with it?

http://www.spectreperformance.com/in...et-outlet.html

apparently a guy saw one on a turbo LSX baja truck. I would think it might restrict flow, but maybe not and keeps intake temps down for people that dont have a proper box.
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Originally Posted by jmargo
Why do you say that ?
because fuzzy knows everything, have you not figured that out yet? lol
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Originally Posted by I8URSVT
semi on topic:

saw a thread elsewhere regarding this, has anybody had any experience with it?

http://www.spectreperformance.com/in...et-outlet.html

apparently a guy saw one on a turbo LSX baja truck. I would think it might restrict flow, but maybe not and keeps intake temps down for people that dont have a proper box.
Link wasn't working for me, what is it?
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Originally Posted by jmargo
Stock box with snorkel removed, K&N drop in and fast acting IAT in the box. I'd put this up against a mass produced intake anyday at half the price.

very nice job
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^^ get rid of that 78mm throttle body! haha, what size is that center piece? 3"?


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