Hurst 3916030: Improved on by PISNUOFF/07CTS-V
12-27-2013, 10:46 PM
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Hurst 3916030: Improved on by PISNUOFF/07CTS-V Here we go. I will be using this thread to follow the install and before/after reviews of this newer shifter option for our V1's. With a few other guys already providing feedback on the 54inches shifters, I got in contact with Brian (PISNUOFF/07CTS-V) about properly modifying the Hurst 3916030 for our cars. I can't say enough about his work and he went above and beyond to get me this thing during the holidays. Even if the USPS decided to deliver it a few days later than expected lol.
What I was looking for:
-Replaceable stalk: Shorter one for DD work, able to swap out to a longer one for track days/auto-x. Not that it is a huge deal to some, but I prefer to not have to reach off the wheel a longer distance than I have to during aggressive driving. We will see how this works in the long run, but it makes sense in my head so far (can't guarantee that is always successful)
-Upgraded pivot ball
-Improved connection/bushings at the linkage
-Rebuildable and easily serviceable
-That classic Hurst ****/stalk combo.
What I am starting with for a baseline:
2005 CTS-V - Completely Stock Shifter - Creative Steel Bushings - 9k miles on a new Trans Mount (No Insert yet, its finally on the way). This is by far the tightest shifting stock V I have driven...but I swear the ZF6 in my F250 had a shorter throw.
The goods - you can see the Delrin bushings in the linkage connection as well as the bolt "wings" machined off in order to use the stock stamped hold down. Hardware to replace the rivets you will drill out during the install. Hurst supplied grease for pivots etc. (ignore the bronze isolator cup as its being saved for later)
Closeup of the inside of the pivot. You can see the snap ring inside. Once that is removed you can press the base off and rebuild the guts if you ever needed to.
Sleeve machined and pressed onto the base in order to properly fit the stock stamped hold down. You can also see the new bushings for where the shifter attaches to the linkage. No shimming with washers.
Will update tomorrow with pictures of the install and before/after initial reviews.
What I was looking for:
-Replaceable stalk: Shorter one for DD work, able to swap out to a longer one for track days/auto-x. Not that it is a huge deal to some, but I prefer to not have to reach off the wheel a longer distance than I have to during aggressive driving. We will see how this works in the long run, but it makes sense in my head so far (can't guarantee that is always successful)
-Upgraded pivot ball
-Improved connection/bushings at the linkage
-Rebuildable and easily serviceable
-That classic Hurst ****/stalk combo.
What I am starting with for a baseline:
2005 CTS-V - Completely Stock Shifter - Creative Steel Bushings - 9k miles on a new Trans Mount (No Insert yet, its finally on the way). This is by far the tightest shifting stock V I have driven...but I swear the ZF6 in my F250 had a shorter throw.
The goods - you can see the Delrin bushings in the linkage connection as well as the bolt "wings" machined off in order to use the stock stamped hold down. Hardware to replace the rivets you will drill out during the install. Hurst supplied grease for pivots etc. (ignore the bronze isolator cup as its being saved for later)
Closeup of the inside of the pivot. You can see the snap ring inside. Once that is removed you can press the base off and rebuild the guts if you ever needed to.
Sleeve machined and pressed onto the base in order to properly fit the stock stamped hold down. You can also see the new bushings for where the shifter attaches to the linkage. No shimming with washers.
Will update tomorrow with pictures of the install and before/after initial reviews.
12-28-2013, 09:25 AM
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In and done. The throw is GREATLY reduced. My redneck engineering to measure the before/after and make a real percentage out if it barely made sense to me so I will spare you all. Just know that the entire ball stays well within the shift boot surround and it makes the cigarette lighter actually useable with a phone charger in place.
Install notes: the new sleeve that Brian makes to fit inside the stock hold down cup fits VERY snug. Grease it to ease installation. We had to actually bolt it down to our workbench to get it seated all the way. As thin as the stamped metal hold down is, I would be hesitant to use a press of a hammer to tap it into place. Lots of thanks to my buddy Robbie who let me borrow his garage since most of my junk is still in storage. Thats my old 02 F250 that used to haul my rig around. I don't miss that fuel bill.
Going to drive it around and report back but so far the fit and finish is great and the install is smooth. With 2 people we had it all swapped out in an hour and a half taking time to take pics and whatnot. No dropping the exhaust needed like all the other shifters.
Install notes: the new sleeve that Brian makes to fit inside the stock hold down cup fits VERY snug. Grease it to ease installation. We had to actually bolt it down to our workbench to get it seated all the way. As thin as the stamped metal hold down is, I would be hesitant to use a press of a hammer to tap it into place. Lots of thanks to my buddy Robbie who let me borrow his garage since most of my junk is still in storage. Thats my old 02 F250 that used to haul my rig around. I don't miss that fuel bill.
Going to drive it around and report back but so far the fit and finish is great and the install is smooth. With 2 people we had it all swapped out in an hour and a half taking time to take pics and whatnot. No dropping the exhaust needed like all the other shifters.
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I just drove it home and WOW. Such an improvement. The feel is what I would consider "solid" not "notchy". At least for me, "notchy" feel cheap and like something is binding. Once you select the gear, its there, which inspires much more confidence in each gear selection as you row through the gears. Over a 20 mile drive home mixed country road and interstate the engagement into each gear got much smoother.
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I just got finished installing the RevShift trans mount insert and additional noise transmission through the shifter is marginal at best. Like before I had to turn the AC and radio off to hear any real difference. Road noise cancels it all out like before once you get up to city speeds. I think if I took the time to put the car back up in the air and place the small piece of Dynamat where Hurst says to it would deaden most if not all of any added noise.
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