Finally put on the F14's
03-15-2014, 09:49 PM
#21
I know that I'm being a jerk about this, but hearing the old "try the HPS" thing ranks up there with recommending Royal Purple oils. Not only is it unhelpful to the recipient (assuming they do the right thing and ignore it), it immediately identifies the recommender as someone who has no useful perspective on car products. Fortunately, for the most part it's simply a rite of passage--most people (including myself) seem to run into/try those products when they first venture outside of the safe confines of the OEM / Mobil 1 environment. It's a painful experience... I basically ruined two sets of wheels with HP+ dust, and spent countless hours trying to slow the rate of degradation.
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03-15-2014, 10:14 PM
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I know that I'm being a jerk about this, but hearing the old "try the HPS" thing ranks up there with recommending Royal Purple oils. Not only is it unhelpful to the recipient (assuming they do the right thing and ignore it), it immediately identifies the recommender as someone who has no useful perspective on car products. Fortunately, for the most part it's simply a rite of passage--most people (including myself) seem to run into/try those products when they first venture outside of the safe confines of the OEM / Mobil 1 environment. It's a painful experience... I basically ruined two sets of wheels with HP+ dust, and spent countless hours trying to slow the rate of degradation.
03-17-2014, 11:51 AM
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I know that I'm being a jerk about this, but hearing the old "try the HPS" thing ranks up there with recommending Royal Purple oils. Not only is it unhelpful to the recipient (assuming they do the right thing and ignore it), it immediately identifies the recommender as someone who has no useful perspective on car products.
Each pad compound has an intended use. The HP+ is NOT a street pad and clearly you had a bad experience because you used it in the wrong application. It even says so on their literature. I did a quick search and don't see where you have ever even used the HPS pad, just the HP+. If you truly were offering a helpful perspective to the community here regarding brake pads, you would state that you made a mistake for trying to use a race pad with your street wheels and warn against that.
Any person who really races knows that you use different pads for the street vs. racing. On top of that you should also have dedicated wheels for the track that you don't care about getting brake dust on. Since you are not a racer and only want to attend the occasional autox or track days, I only mentioned the HPS since it does not dust like the HP+, is an improvement over the OEM pad or anything the typical parts store sells, and is relatively easy to obtain. A vast majority of the members here don't race their Vs and use them strictly for street use. If that's the case, the HPS is just fine. If you have any data or tech to prove me wrong, bring it.
Also, I only built this car in my garage but I'm still in the early phases of my car experience <rolls eyes>
Sorry to go off topic to the OP.
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03-17-2014, 07:55 PM
#24
I just have two things to add.
1) I think a 245/40/19 and a 35 series rear 19 is a pretty tall tire. but to each his own
2) I have run Hawk pads on track also, and i have been in a few cars that have them on track and they work just well. Each pad has a use and if you go outside of that then thats on you. I destroyed a set of racing brake pads on track because i abused them outside of their limits.
also if you are getting outside the bounds of a street pad with street driving then you should start finding closed places or tracks to drive like that.
1) I think a 245/40/19 and a 35 series rear 19 is a pretty tall tire. but to each his own
2) I have run Hawk pads on track also, and i have been in a few cars that have them on track and they work just well. Each pad has a use and if you go outside of that then thats on you. I destroyed a set of racing brake pads on track because i abused them outside of their limits.
also if you are getting outside the bounds of a street pad with street driving then you should start finding closed places or tracks to drive like that.
03-19-2014, 06:03 PM
#28
On that particular car, the wheels are 19x9" and 19x10" (the only option offered), with 245/35-19 tires front and 275/30-19 tires rear (one size smaller than normal). That's why the owner was able to set the ride height so low.
While I like his ride height and stance, I don't like the fender gap in front of and behind each wheel. Plus, he probably can't get super aggressive with the car without wrecking a fender.
While I like his ride height and stance, I don't like the fender gap in front of and behind each wheel. Plus, he probably can't get super aggressive with the car without wrecking a fender.
03-19-2014, 07:32 PM
#29
If I were you, and I was buying a set of these wheels in piano black, I would pick up 24 with two of their (keep one in the car). They match the wheels extremely well, and the two-piece free rotating design prevents marring of the wheels as you torque them down. The black finish is almost indestructible--I've accidentally stepped on these laying on asphalt and they weren't even scratched.
Another thing that you might want to consider is getting two pairs of 3/16" spacers for the front wheels from MightyMouse. Using the spacers will require those ARP 100-7708 wheel studs, but I feel that the car looks better with them (I've always felt that the CTS-V has a bit of an underbite). Using them may preclude you from going as low as that guy did, however.
03-19-2014, 08:06 PM
#30
I would wait until you see what I'm doing with the 20x10 and 20x12" Forgestar F14s, but okay. What I'm worried about is the potential to mash a tire into the fender if you hit a big bump while turning. This isn't an issue particular to the Forgestar F14--it happened on my stock wheels as well.
If I were you, and I was buying a set of these wheels in piano black, I would pick up 24 McGard 65357BK spline drives with two of their 65300 13/16" aluminum keys (keep one in the car). They match the wheels extremely well, and the two-piece free rotating design prevents marring of the wheels as you torque them down. The black finish is almost indestructible--I've accidentally stepped on these laying on asphalt and they weren't even scratched.
Another thing that you might want to consider is getting two pairs of 3/16" spacers for the front wheels from MightyMouse. Using the spacers will require those ARP 100-7708 wheel studs, but I feel that the car looks better with them (I've always felt that the CTS-V has a bit of an underbite). Using them may preclude you from going as low as that guy did, however.
If I were you, and I was buying a set of these wheels in piano black, I would pick up 24 McGard 65357BK spline drives with two of their 65300 13/16" aluminum keys (keep one in the car). They match the wheels extremely well, and the two-piece free rotating design prevents marring of the wheels as you torque them down. The black finish is almost indestructible--I've accidentally stepped on these laying on asphalt and they weren't even scratched.
Another thing that you might want to consider is getting two pairs of 3/16" spacers for the front wheels from MightyMouse. Using the spacers will require those ARP 100-7708 wheel studs, but I feel that the car looks better with them (I've always felt that the CTS-V has a bit of an underbite). Using them may preclude you from going as low as that guy did, however.
03-19-2014, 08:15 PM
#31
Well, they also sell 19" versions. I'm not totally set on the diameter yet, but I am set on running 10" and 12" wide wheels.
03-20-2014, 07:59 AM
#32
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Does forgestar give the option if an 18 for our pattern? I know it's a group buy most of the time but I'd like to keep 18s because more track tires are available in 18s. That is going to be the one thing that stops me from getting the F14 right away. I'll get a set of TDs first then F14s in or 20.
03-20-2014, 08:50 AM
#33
Does forgestar give the option if an 18 for our pattern? I know it's a group buy most of the time but I'd like to keep 18s because more track tires are available in 18s. That is going to be the one thing that stops me from getting the F14 right away. I'll get a set of TDs first then F14s in or 20.
03-20-2014, 09:20 AM
#34
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OEM wheels are good on a track too... If for no other reason than they are really tough. I suppose I could dress up the ok girl with some F14s but that won't be fore a while anyways
03-20-2014, 03:51 PM
#35
Well I wanted dress up and to leave the snow tires on the stock ones. I didn't want the 19's because if sidewall height on PA roads. Wasn't concerned with track use at all. If anyone ever sees my car on any track, please call the cops, because it has been stolen.
03-20-2014, 05:31 PM
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Does anybody have a direct head on shot and a direct rear view shot ? I feel like these 19" forgestars are "kicked out" too far and don't look right. I'd want something that is in the middle of fuzzy's spec'd F14's and the stock wheel face location.
I've been trying to find some off the shelf wheels in 5lug that would work but all require spacers of some sort without just going fully custom, which I'm not in the market for at this time.
I love the style of the F14. I think they are probably one of the best looking aftermarket wheels for our cars. Just needs a better offset choice.
I've been trying to find some off the shelf wheels in 5lug that would work but all require spacers of some sort without just going fully custom, which I'm not in the market for at this time.
I love the style of the F14. I think they are probably one of the best looking aftermarket wheels for our cars. Just needs a better offset choice.
03-20-2014, 07:33 PM
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04-19-2014, 04:53 PM
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Glad you like them--have you taken a shot of your car from the back? The wider tires really give the V a muscular stance.
He has a little bit of a reverse rake on his car. The front wheel gap is larger than the rear wheel gap.
Yes, they created special raised center caps. If you don't like them, you can still choose the standard flat center caps and cut your rear axle stubs down by 2.5 threads.
He has a little bit of a reverse rake on his car. The front wheel gap is larger than the rear wheel gap.
Yes, they created special raised center caps. If you don't like them, you can still choose the standard flat center caps and cut your rear axle stubs down by 2.5 threads.
