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Glad you called Magnuson, the Vette manifold puts the blower too far forward and the hood won't shut. The HEX on Frozenboost.com is cheap and much better than the Maggie piece. Jabsco pump is total garbage, I have two of them if you want one. Go with the Mezeire (sp?) pump and save yourself hassle. The max you can go is 5/8" hard line and 3/4" hose.
Get a 220"/238"ish cam on 112 or 113 CL with intake events for FI. The Maggie is a low end torque producer so you want to expand that rather than try to push the power band up where the Maggie overheats the charge and runs out of air. Don't let anyone steer you differently here.
The 90mm throttle body is a complete waste of $ unless you already have it. It adds no power at all.
Get a 220"/238"ish cam on 112 or 113 CL with intake events for FI. The Maggie is a low end torque producer so you want to expand that rather than try to push the power band up where the Maggie overheats the charge and runs out of air. Don't let anyone steer you differently here.
The 90mm throttle body is a complete waste of $ unless you already have it. It adds no power at all.
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I don't like boosting a (relatively) high compression factory NA motor especially with the wonky fuel solutions for these things, but that's just me. E85 really pushes the system further. However, That's a pretty hairy cam so the valvetrain concerns jump right out as you've already said. Tough call really. I'd probably sell both and get a less blumpy cam or something. Just because those are the two options on-hand doesn't mean they're your only choices.
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DMM,
Have you looked into a cobra setup? I was looking into that. The Bosch pump and a dual pass. They are readily available and mostly proven successful. I'll look into the frozenboost stuff and the meziere pumps. I don't mind spending extra money if I only have to do it once.
Have you looked into a cobra setup? I was looking into that. The Bosch pump and a dual pass. They are readily available and mostly proven successful. I'll look into the frozenboost stuff and the meziere pumps. I don't mind spending extra money if I only have to do it once.
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I will for sure. I'm hoping he can get the Maggie. So much easier to install. The vortec, like a procharger, would require pretty extensive work. Plus the kind of driving I do 90% of the time, just lends itself to the Maggie power band. I don't get to go to tracks enough yet.
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Well you have paid for everything you need now, and with the maggie you will likely drop another 2-3k getting it on the car ready to go.
Maggie is definetly the better option but the cam was the single best thing I ever did to my car. A tuner will be able to get that cam driving damn close to stock but like you said it should get new valvesprings every 15-20k miles which really isnt a huge deal if you can do them yourself.
Maggie is definetly the better option but the cam was the single best thing I ever did to my car. A tuner will be able to get that cam driving damn close to stock but like you said it should get new valvesprings every 15-20k miles which really isnt a huge deal if you can do them yourself.
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You can get it at virtually any store that sells paint. Same as gas line anti freeze but you'll pay more for it at an automotive store probably. You can buy it buy the gallon, cheap.
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Well you have paid for everything you need now, and with the maggie you will likely drop another 2-3k getting it on the car ready to go.
Maggie is definetly the better option but the cam was the single best thing I ever did to my car. A tuner will be able to get that cam driving damn close to stock but like you said it should get new valvesprings every 15-20k miles which really isnt a huge deal if you can do them yourself.
Maggie is definetly the better option but the cam was the single best thing I ever did to my car. A tuner will be able to get that cam driving damn close to stock but like you said it should get new valvesprings every 15-20k miles which really isnt a huge deal if you can do them yourself.
I would still have to send the blower in to Maggie and they are going to run through it and make sure everything is working proper. Then mount it on a new intake manifold and put a new jackshaft on it. Fingers crossed its under $1500. I'm budgeting another $1500 for the fuel system and the hx system... Either way, I'm getting the blower. If it ends up being more than $3k, it will just take me longer. I am not going to be cutting corners on this **** either. I can't stand when that happens. That's how you blow **** up... Do it right the first time.
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if your running a cobra set up then do like i said, or atleast look into it
ditch the bosch go jabsco, you can ditch the whole heat exchanger 'save weight' and run a killer chiller which will beyond keep the iat2 below ambient or right at it. or if you go heat exchanger go dual pass afco or LFP brands, and upgrade all the IC lines and insulate them.
ditch the bosch go jabsco, you can ditch the whole heat exchanger 'save weight' and run a killer chiller which will beyond keep the iat2 below ambient or right at it. or if you go heat exchanger go dual pass afco or LFP brands, and upgrade all the IC lines and insulate them.
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if your running a cobra set up then do like i said, or atleast look into it
ditch the bosch go jabsco, you can ditch the whole heat exchanger 'save weight' and run a killer chiller which will beyond keep the iat2 below ambient or right at it. or if you go heat exchanger go dual pass afco or LFP brands, and upgrade all the IC lines and insulate them.
ditch the bosch go jabsco, you can ditch the whole heat exchanger 'save weight' and run a killer chiller which will beyond keep the iat2 below ambient or right at it. or if you go heat exchanger go dual pass afco or LFP brands, and upgrade all the IC lines and insulate them.
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I know you mentioned you had LS9 injectors however unless they are EV1 mini style they will not work on the mp112. Also its possible the mp112 already has 60# injectors i couldn't see from the pictures but check to see if there is a blue ring on them (indicates they are 60s). Also like DMM said you would need a new intake manifold lid so the 112 sat back far enough. Also a DW300 is overkill for a 112, a walbro 255 is more than sufficient but whatever your preference is go for that. Make sure you do the racetronix wiring harness
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I know you mentioned you had LS9 injectors however unless they are EV1 mini style they will not work on the mp112. Also its possible the mp112 already has 60# injectors i couldn't see from the pictures but check to see if there is a blue ring on them (indicates they are 60s). Also like DMM said you would need a new intake manifold lid so the 112 sat back far enough. Also a DW300 is overkill for a 112, a walbro 255 is more than sufficient but whatever your preference is go for that. Make sure you do the racetronix wiring harness
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I don't mind spending extra money if I only have to do it once.
Yea, am budgeting for about $3k.
ditch the bosch go jabsco, you can ditch the whole heat exchanger 'save weight' and run a killer chiller which will beyond keep the iat2 below ambient or right at it
Also a DW300 is overkill for a 112, a walbro 255 is more than sufficient but whatever your preference is go for that. Make sure you do the racetronix wiring harness
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Go mezeire and frozen boost, proven on multiple Vs
Not enough for an FI upgrade.
Pricey solution and I have seen a few of the 1/4 mile guys around here with issues. I think they were all from installation but they swore otherwise. I am seeing roughly the same difference between IAT and ambient as DMM. I have considered Meth for octane and may play a bit.
True on both counts but I prefer the DW over the Walbro (mostly subjective). While doing the harness make sure you do the bulkhead connector.
Not enough for an FI upgrade.
Pricey solution and I have seen a few of the 1/4 mile guys around here with issues. I think they were all from installation but they swore otherwise. I am seeing roughly the same difference between IAT and ambient as DMM. I have considered Meth for octane and may play a bit.
True on both counts but I prefer the DW over the Walbro (mostly subjective). While doing the harness make sure you do the bulkhead connector.
As far as the $3k, that's just for the rebuild of the blower and the fuel system. As it is right now, I might be able to sneak a hx from the car this came out of. So I'll just need to add a hx pump.
I'm going to literally copy Philistine's pump install -1 pump. If I go forged later I can add one. But for now, I'm just dropping one in instead if the two
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Something like this maybe?
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...gauge-pod.html
You should start a new thread. I'd be a buyer on an gauge a-pillar setup or would that cause you to question my sanity........
Yes, the one on the center stack gave me the idea. As far as I know, no one currently sells one currently for us. I'm not trying to get in a vendor fight with LS1 tech here so as for right now, this is purely hypothetical. Maybe I'll start a thread after I construct one.
As far as the A-pillar, how would you want that finished? I was going to suede wrap mine because it would be easy to color match the black in the seats and I was contemplating doing the whole dash anyways. I could try finding a color matched fabric for the pillar, or I could try and get some paint or something. That stuff is a weird fabric stuff that's like glued on, no way its coming off.
I'll send it to you finished however you want, i.e. primered, bare sanded, or wrapped with a fabric. Also, what orientation do you want them in, straight up and down the pillar like in a row? Or in a cluster? How many pods do you want?
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unfinished would work for me. maybe you should try and do a small group buy so you can get everything in bulk, do 5 or 10 at 1 time and only make the mess once? a-pillar covers are starting to be easy to get so cores wouldn't be an issue.
3 gauges might be a bit much though...
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...-complete.html