NIKDSC5

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The expected ship date for ls1/6/2 is April 20th I believe. Not sure if you can preorder them if you wanted to....but yes if imaging they compared it to the 102, and they already made claims of +15 over the fast. So 0 over the ported fast. Not to say itself can't be ported. I just hope Lingenfelter/Hennessey/LME/Vengance can get their hands on them before that to prove out some #'s before it hits the market. That would surely drive up sales and be free marketing for MSD.
The only thing I'm leery about with it is the fact they advertise their coils to be awesome and better than stock when in fact they're pure junk. And far worse than stock LS coils. Too bad really, since those could are so damn pretty! Anyway......

ryridesmotox

Yea I wouldn't use their msd coils. I like the truck or LS7 coils. I'm going to use LS7 coils in mine and LS7 lifters. I think I might be toning down the head work in the plans. Spending $1k+ in head work isn't going to do a whole lot. Especially since the LS3 heads stock will support a ton of power in a stroker, I've seen dynos of 600+wheel

Sssnake

Mild port and polish and you should be pretty good. You might want to check out the V2/LSA heads. Stronger alloy and nicer casting BUT you end up with the swirl wing. For an N/A build I would want those removed or at least greatly reduced.

ryridesmotox

I already have the LS3 heads with the L76. Came like that. I don't want to spend more to get the LSA heads. I am going to get some LS3 or ferrea valves though, since they're lighter. And then a grind on the valve seats, done for now after that.

Sssnake

Yep, my bad. Definitely not worth the cost to buy the LSAs...

NIKDSC5

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I wanted to not believe this for what ever reason, but you're correct sir. There is almost no reason to port ls3 heads, read an article that tested it. They flow like crazy out of the box, and the aftermarket castings that are available for the LS3 almost flow too much I didn't know that was possible. Go big or go home I guess. Makes my LS2 406 build look silly and stupid. Should have gone the LS3 route and 427+ CI

ryridesmotox

Why does it make you're build look stupid? You can always pick up a set of heads and toss em on the LS2. The only stupid build is one that doesn't run. If yours works, roll with it. My motor is basically an LS2 with DOD/AFM from factory, and it comes with LS3 style heads from factory. I got extremely lucky to find this thing squirrelled away in a salvage yard.

The DOD/AFM **** is gone, and the bottom end is going to get done soon hopefully. Gotta yank out the LS6 this weekend.

I wouldn't say there is no reason to port the LS3s, but I don't think I'll need them right now. I'd rather spend money toward an 8.8 or 9 inch rear end. Port/polish on heads is like $1k+

ryridesmotox

Easy to miss/forget that the L76 came like that. I'm pretty lucky that it does... And I'm pretty lucky that no one wanted it. Everyone wants the almighty LS3. But with a stroker it won't matter what it started as.

ryridesmotox

Motor is out. l76 is at the shop, trying to decide on cam.

Decided on a Lunati crank and rods, mahle forged pistons with a -4cc dish. Should be just under 11:1 compression.

philistine

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What's to decide? DD nasty or murdered nasty. If you think your exhaust is loud now...oh boy! The fun part of an NA build is the cam

ryridesmotox

Trying to decide on if I want to custom spec one that's got good wide power band and is easy to tune, or go get a GT1-1 cam that will sound like there is an ax murderer under the hood and will pull on the top end like a nuclear explosion.

rand49er

Does it depend as much on how you're going to use the car as anything else? Mostly DD vs mostly track?

ryridesmotox

I drive 6 miles round trip. I could really care less about drivability for my commute. Plus I have my truck too. So they will split duty. I'm building the motor to go to track days on road courses, auto cross, mile, and half mile events.

I've actually been emailing a shop in Arizona that is really helping me out here, Blue Pitt Kustoms ( https://www.facebook.com/BluePittKustoms) They spec'd me one of their aggressive shelf cams designed for a stroker. They are going to set me up with a rotating assembly. Also they are selling me a fast102 intake and Nick Williams 102 throttle body.

My budget is kinda tight and they are really helping me out here.

rand49er

Six miles?!! Lot of people would kill for a commute like that.

Go with the ax murderer.

ryridesmotox

Lol oh... I am bro. Ax murderer cam. I'm like surge? Psssh who cares. I'm gonna do work at the Mojave Mile and 1/2 mile events, and road courses, and auto cross.

I just talked to Michael at Blue Pit Kustoms... He is going to port my heads, match the intake, ordered me a cam, and he ordered up a rotating assembly. The dude is cool to deal with. Literally my build just came together in one phone call. Huge weight off my mind. If you need any parts, hit them up. I promise you won't regret it. I won't discuss pricing, that's their thing. But its way better than anywhere else. Its really nice to find a shop that is about customer service.

ryridesmotox

Heads are getting sent to Blue Pitt Kustoms today so they can do some work on the runners and the ports.

ryridesmotox

Also, ordered a power bond harmonic balancer, and an L92/L99 oil pump. Because the L92/99 has AFM/DOD ****, they run a higher volume of oil... And they are only like 80 bux from scoogin dicky.

The balancer kit comes with an ARP bolt too, so that's nice.

ryridesmotox

I'm working on a deal with a new suspension company as well. I'll be dropping off my shocks and springs Friday. They will be making some better performing units. After my car is done, they are going to R&D it and set it up for track duty. The company is called Vogtland and they have good reviews from what I've seen, and they aren't ridiculously expensive. So another choice for suspension is coming.

ryridesmotox

First box. Many many many more to come.

Bio248

i'm still more interested to see what vogtland comes up with for your suspension than the motor build, but both are cool. i'd hope it'd be something on the quality level of the KW units, minus the stainless bodies and potentially a shock that isn't adjustable. adjustability is nice, but it's totally unnecessary in 90% of situations so long as the shock valving is setup for the spring rates you'll be running.

i'll be waiting at my door step for the UPS guy to drop off that balancer and oil pump. having friends is great.