V1 5 lug swap [complete]
#41
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i've got my fourth bearing in. totally different than the other three. hilarious, right? oh well, they're all the right part numbers so they should be usable. we'll hope the quality is on par with what i actually ordered, heh.
still waiting on hearing back about a base CTS ebrake assembly. then i just need to order the V backing plate and swap those on and i should have my ebrake setup ready to go. rotors are gonna come from these guys as well.
then i just need TPMS and tires. it's starting to get warmer up here in wisconsin so i need to start getting a move on otherwise i'm just gonna wear out my winter tires instead.
still waiting on hearing back about a base CTS ebrake assembly. then i just need to order the V backing plate and swap those on and i should have my ebrake setup ready to go. rotors are gonna come from these guys as well.
then i just need TPMS and tires. it's starting to get warmer up here in wisconsin so i need to start getting a move on otherwise i'm just gonna wear out my winter tires instead.
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You are gonna need more parts...
IF YOU SEARCHED like to told you to, you would have found the list in my Makin Progress...
I did all the leg work, you just needed to click those tiny little fingers and you would have found this list
Parts you will need are
25814678 - x2, shoe kit
25867413 - x2, shoe lever arm
25867414 - x2, shoe leveler
18K2087 - spring and hardware kit
25851190 OE Service Rear Brake
25851205 OE Service Rear Brake
HAVE FUN...Seriously, there is a search button USE IT...
IF YOU SEARCHED like to told you to, you would have found the list in my Makin Progress...
I did all the leg work, you just needed to click those tiny little fingers and you would have found this list
Parts you will need are
25814678 - x2, shoe kit
25867413 - x2, shoe lever arm
25867414 - x2, shoe leveler
18K2087 - spring and hardware kit
25851190 OE Service Rear Brake
25851205 OE Service Rear Brake
HAVE FUN...Seriously, there is a search button USE IT...
#43
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i copied and pasted the parts list from your thread into my first post already.
the entire parking brake assembly, except for the backing plate, from the base CTS is the exact same stuff. if i have the entire assembly then all i need are the new backing plates, which are $75 each on amazon.
i haven't been able to track down all of those parts separately, that's why i'm having a hard time. i'm also not sure i want to pay dealer prices for any of it based on the rape factor of their costs.
the entire parking brake assembly, except for the backing plate, from the base CTS is the exact same stuff. if i have the entire assembly then all i need are the new backing plates, which are $75 each on amazon.
i haven't been able to track down all of those parts separately, that's why i'm having a hard time. i'm also not sure i want to pay dealer prices for any of it based on the rape factor of their costs.
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rockauto's shipping prices are astronomical. and i couldn't find the complete list of parts there, ebay, or amazon. i'm just missing a piece or two, that's it.
maybe i'll give luke a ring and see what he can offer.
maybe i'll give luke a ring and see what he can offer.
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These are the parts from the V2 for the ebrake
E-brake
25851190 - backing plate
25851205 - backing plate
25693149 - cable bracket
25693150 - cable bracket
25814678 - shoe kit
25867413 - x2, shoe lever arm
25867414 - x2, shoe leveler
20823795 - cable
20823866 - cable equalizer
18K2087 - spring kit
Raybestos H7363 - hardware kit
#48
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so is the parts list you have listed from your thread all of it or not? does anything else that i need not transfer over from the stock stuff?
edit: looks like i'll need the bracket for the cable since the bracket stock is part of the backing plate.
Originally Posted by NAF
25814678 - x2, shoe kit
25867413 - x2, shoe lever arm
25867414 - x2, shoe leveler
18K2087 - spring and hardware kit
25851190 OE Service Rear Brake
25851205 OE Service Rear Brake
25867413 - x2, shoe lever arm
25867414 - x2, shoe leveler
18K2087 - spring and hardware kit
25851190 OE Service Rear Brake
25851205 OE Service Rear Brake
Last edited by Bio248; 03-17-2015 at 01:34 PM.
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To properly convert to a 5 lug system and not redrillin your rotors, which is a bad idea, these are everything you will need as well as the V2 rear rotor...
Everything will fit in properly and at full safety
Redrilling your rotors for the new configuration though possible is not safe at all.
Everything will fit in properly and at full safety
Redrilling your rotors for the new configuration though possible is not safe at all.
#50
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right, so i've got the line on the V2 rear rotors already (same as camaro anyway). front rotors from a camaro since i'm not going to the 6 pot front calipers. easy.
but basically besides the list i copy/pasted above from you, i'll also need the cable brackets in order to make the parking brake assembly appropriate.
but basically besides the list i copy/pasted above from you, i'll also need the cable brackets in order to make the parking brake assembly appropriate.
#52
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if i cared about going faster i'd still have to do this because the wheel choices severely limit tire choices. once step at a time, dude.
rotors, front and rear, purchased.
now i gotta figure out pads, TPMS, and tires. the ebrake parts i'm just waiting on the rest of the 'quote', then i'll call in and order.
rotors, front and rear, purchased.
now i gotta figure out pads, TPMS, and tires. the ebrake parts i'm just waiting on the rest of the 'quote', then i'll call in and order.
Last edited by Bio248; 03-18-2015 at 09:36 AM.
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if i cared about going faster i'd still have to do this because the wheel choices severely limit tire choices. once step at a time, dude.
rotors, front and rear, purchased.
now i gotta figure out pads, TPMS, and tires. the ebrake parts i'm just waiting on the rest of the 'quote', then i'll call in and order.
rotors, front and rear, purchased.
now i gotta figure out pads, TPMS, and tires. the ebrake parts i'm just waiting on the rest of the 'quote', then i'll call in and order.
Inward? Not much going there, and I have a set of stock wheels I plan to widen as much as possible once I setup my suspension and measure.
Outward? Same thing, prepare for body work.
I know I can get 9.25" rim and a 295 drag radial (shooting for 10" with out a spacer) so how much more tire do you need? a 295 drag radial or a good comp r tire will give all the traction necessary for 800+. If making more than that say 1k range you'd mini tub and widen and the whole shebang.
basically, IMO this is only for more options for visual wheels. I have a hard time jumping on board your traction argument. Even now stock I can get a 275 drag radial.......
Edit: Bigger tires don't make up for shittier driving. Look at Viper owners.
#55
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I know I can get 9.25" rim and a 295 drag radial (shooting for 10" with out a spacer) so how much more tire do you need? a 295 drag radial or a good comp r tire will give all the traction necessary for 800+. If making more than that say 1k range you'd mini tub and widen and the whole shebang.
those wheels in 6x115, or widening the stockers, is going to cost you just as much as doing what i'm doing right now, if not more.
it'd only costing me as much as it is because i'm doing my best to use quality parts and doing it as bolt on as possible. i could be done already if i just wanted to redrill my stock rotors and be ghetto about it. then i'd have my choice of a million different options for large 5x120 wheels at discount prices.
then we're both in the same place with the wheels/tires fitting. going inwards is stupid and i'm not a rookie with a fender roller. so basically we're saying the exact same things, but i'm doing something about it.
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here is where you're losing me.
those wheels in 6x115, or widening the stockers, is going to cost you just as much as doing what i'm doing right now, if not more.
it'd only costing me as much as it is because i'm doing my best to use quality parts and doing it as bolt on as possible. i could be done already if i just wanted to redrill my stock rotors and be ghetto about it. then i'd have my choice of a million different options for large 5x120 wheels at discount prices.
then we're both in the same place with the wheels/tires fitting. going inwards is stupid and i'm not a rookie with a fender roller. so basically we're saying the exact same things, but i'm doing something about it.
those wheels in 6x115, or widening the stockers, is going to cost you just as much as doing what i'm doing right now, if not more.
it'd only costing me as much as it is because i'm doing my best to use quality parts and doing it as bolt on as possible. i could be done already if i just wanted to redrill my stock rotors and be ghetto about it. then i'd have my choice of a million different options for large 5x120 wheels at discount prices.
then we're both in the same place with the wheels/tires fitting. going inwards is stupid and i'm not a rookie with a fender roller. so basically we're saying the exact same things, but i'm doing something about it.
Either way, are you going to go with the CS trailing arms? IIRC, a stock wheel at 9.75" would work with a set of these and no telling what you can get away with using aftermarkets on a 5 lug pattern....some of us would rather run a wider tire than being forced to use a drag radial or comp R tire all the time so going wide would make sense for some.
Last edited by ls1247; 03-18-2015 at 10:33 AM.
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Widening my rims will cost me less than what your "winter" wheels cost you So its not a wash either since you have so many other parts working in this.
Why would going in be stupid? And a fender roller won't net you what i think you're hoping it will.
What am I not doing about it? I have my plan.
Also, with the CS trailing arms ls247 the next closest thing to hit will be the coil over.
Why would going in be stupid? And a fender roller won't net you what i think you're hoping it will.
What am I not doing about it? I have my plan.
Also, with the CS trailing arms ls247 the next closest thing to hit will be the coil over.
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i have the CS trailing arms already, not installed. that's not the big issue.
you can go in only so far unless you want to cut stuff up. that's fine, but i don't want to.
pulling the rear fenders is a lot easier and will give me more than enough room to run the piddly 275s i want to run anyway. it's a street car and it'll never be tracked.
if you can widen your wheels for that cheap then do it. i know there are places out there that do it and it's not something i wanted. i don't want the same CTS-V that everyone else has.
i'm just opening the doors here. i don't know which one i'm going to walk through in the future...
you can go in only so far unless you want to cut stuff up. that's fine, but i don't want to.
pulling the rear fenders is a lot easier and will give me more than enough room to run the piddly 275s i want to run anyway. it's a street car and it'll never be tracked.
if you can widen your wheels for that cheap then do it. i know there are places out there that do it and it's not something i wanted. i don't want the same CTS-V that everyone else has.
i'm just opening the doors here. i don't know which one i'm going to walk through in the future...
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Widening my rims will cost me less than what your "winter" wheels cost you So its not a wash either since you have so many other parts working in this.
Why would going in be stupid? And a fender roller won't net you what i think you're hoping it will.
What am I not doing about it? I have my plan.
Also, with the CS trailing arms ls247 the next closest thing to hit will be the coil over.
Why would going in be stupid? And a fender roller won't net you what i think you're hoping it will.
What am I not doing about it? I have my plan.
Also, with the CS trailing arms ls247 the next closest thing to hit will be the coil over.