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I'm Painting My OE Wheels - Not PCing - Here's Why

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Old 07-03-2015, 10:00 PM
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Ok. The machine is run by a human. A shop that knows what they are doing (not Walmart) and knows how to use the machine, will be able to tell by the out puts the machine gives them......(you ready) if the wheel is bent or not.

A shop (like Walmart) that doesn't know, won't know how to interpret what the machine is telling them. Or they will think anything .5 ounce or under is ok........and call it good.

The machine only displays weight measurements. It doesn't **** out a print out saying "hey, dummy! The wheel is bent!"

better?
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Originally Posted by NIKDSC5
Ok. The machine is run by a human. A shop that knows what they are doing (not Walmart) and knows how to use the machine, will be able to tell by the out puts the machine gives them......(you ready) if the wheel is bent or not.

A shop (like Walmart) that doesn't know, won't know how to interpret what the machine is telling them. Or they will think anything .5 ounce or under is ok........and call it good.

The machine only displays weight measurements. It doesn't **** out a print out saying "hey, dummy! The wheel is bent!"

better?
In my "I've personally balanced a lot of tires" experience, you can physically balance a wheel and tire combo that is bent and or otherwise out of round.
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Well, 2 things. Assuming because of your age you used a machine that didn't do as I said and is outdated. Or two, you were the guy who I warned about earlier whom I wouldn't take my tires to.

And this comes from my, "so have I champ" experience.
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I feel so ignorant...
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I've only powder coated bare metal. Anybody have any issues powder coating over the factory finish?
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I have heard from several sources that it is better to chemically strip the wheel
than to sandblast them.
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Originally Posted by Gary Wells
I have heard from several sources that it is better to chemically strip the wheel
than to sandblast them.
I wouldn't want to take material off the wheel. I've seen polished motorcycle wheels break on several occasions so I'm a little leery of that.

There are many reports on the internet about simply sanding the wheel down and then powder coating over other powder coated finishes but I have never done it. Apparently there is a specific procedure for doing it...

Who's done it?
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I have seen V powder coated wheels crack. I had bought a stock exhaust a while back and the guy had an 06 and showed me his cracked wheel. He said it was the second one that had done it. It was on the spoke. Maybe it was the process with the stripping or something like that. 400° really should have no effect on the aluminum but maybe the stripper does.
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Wouldn't it be the powder coater's fault if the wheel cracked due to them doing the operation? I can see someone baking them too hot if they didn't know what they were doing.
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Originally Posted by lollygagger8
I can see someone baking them too hot if they didn't know what they were doing.

The question is: What's too hot ? Do number of heat cycles matter ?

Does a "too hot" F-number apply to ALL aluminum wheels? Doubtful due to construction differences , thicknesses etc.

Twins Turbo Motorsports turned me onto a powdercoater who uses Infrared technology to cure their stuff. Very very expensive , long wait time - no heat.

I'm still painting these things.....
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Originally Posted by TheAce
The question is: What's too hot ? Do number of heat cycles matter ?

Does a "too hot" F-number apply to ALL aluminum wheels? Doubtful due to construction differences , thicknesses etc.

Twins Turbo Motorsports turned me onto a powdercoater who uses Infrared technology to cure their stuff. Very very expensive , long wait time - no heat.

I'm still painting these things.....
Good points....you would think they had a method to their madness and measure things before they just cranked up the heat.
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how hot do brake rotors get? 350 degrees, 400? the wheel is pinned up against the rotor, which is probably conducting heat into the powder coated surface.

i don't buy it.
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There is also air moving over the wheel in most cases. The entire wheel won't get heat soaked like it would in an oven.
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So are the people breaking wheels sand blasting before powder coating?

I spoke briefly with one of the many local powder coaters and he wanted to blast the wheels I have instead of powdering over the old finish. Someone who isn't watching what they're doing could take too much meat off the wheels me guesses....
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they're probably bead blasting, not sand blasting. that'd maintain the wheel integrity, but take off the finish.

i've seen so many wheels powder coated i can't even begin to count. all of them are still out there rocking on the road.
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UPDATE:

I've learned some ****....

The problem is not the heat coming from the oven , it's the heat generated by the media blast used to remove the old finish.

Still 'heat' related but nothing to do with "removing" material or anything like that.

Chemical Stripping is the key. Adds no heat , removes no material , takes a WEEK of being submerged in the chemical stripper and it aint cheap.

My wheels are bathing as I write this , go down and choose my color tomorrow and by next week my deep bronze OE wheels will be powdercoated !
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I'm still calling BS (again). Media blast or sand blast, generating heat? Really? It is coming out with compressed air! I like this thread.
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I've bead blasted a lot of parts and I've never blasted one to a temperature of 400 degrees....
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I'll double check my facts on this....

It was definitely based upon the media blast and was referencing warpage of wheel...not cracking.

I'll ask again tomorrow and pay better attention this time.
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Doesn't sound far fetched at all. Friction is heat. Abrasion causes friction. Seems perfectly logical to me.


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