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Old 02-13-2016, 04:20 PM
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Ok, updated the list. Is the stock exhaust considered restrictive at these power levels? If not, I'll take off the exhaust work. Either way, we're below 20k already! I'm still not convinced that bolt-ons/nitrous are enough, but perhaps. I guess I can make two lists, one with F/I and one with H/C/I (or does it need to be a stroker?), both with nitrous.
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I say you can do it under 10k. Did some more research most v2s with 620whp break into the 10s

Meaning you can get away with
Stock ls2 block
Good cam and heads about 3k
Will put you in the area of 475whp
150 shot of nitrous 1200
If you already have gen 4 diff
Just axles 1000$
Bushings 400$
Tires 400
Custom rear springs 300
Clutch 800

Yup you can make one or two glory passes and hit your goal under 8k
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Is there that big of a power difference between LS2 and LS6 with H/C/I? I wouldn't think it would be more than 10-15whp?

Most people don't have a gen 4 diff, so I say let's not assume someone does. That's $1k used, 1700 new.
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Originally Posted by serik21
I say you can do it under 10k. Did some more research most v2s with 620whp break into the 10s

Meaning you can get away with
Stock ls2 block
Good cam and heads about 3k
Will put you in the area of 475whp
150 shot of nitrous 1200
If you already have gen 4 diff
Just axles 1000$
Bushings 400$
Tires 400
Custom rear springs 300
Clutch 800

Yup you can make one or two glory passes and hit your goal under 8k

And stock for stock they have about an extra 500lbs on the V1...
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Originally Posted by bmylez
Is there that big of a power difference between LS2 and LS6 with H/C/I? I wouldn't think it would be more than 10-15whp?

Most people don't have a gen 4 diff, so I say let's not assume someone does. That's $1k used, 1700 new.
The reason I say ls2 is you can go ls3 heads intake manifold and flow way more cfm than a ls6 stock intake manifold heads and cam unless you want to dump 1200 for a fast manifold on the ls6 to make 15hp
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Well to be fair, this should be for any V1 . Trying to keep the playing field even with parts and prices alike, that's all.
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I see some ideas floating around that the Gen4 diff may be the budget ticket to the rear end. For whatever it's worth, I think whatever $ you'd spend on that would be better saved towards a budget 8.8 setup. Just my .02 on that. Heavy + manual + drag radial is just an absolutely abusive combo.

I've put some thought in to this and I think a good h/i/c + 150 shot car with a stout rear end that truly runs 100% could do some serious damage with a driver mod and someone who can pinpoint what needs to improve amd adjust accordingly. Leave the suspension stock aside from bushings...etc to start and see where that takes you.

Quite honestly I think the biggest hurdle to making it happen is that not many (if any) are giving it a good college effort. A lot of people have hit the track once or twice and call it good enough. I truly believe that
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Originally Posted by bmylez
Yeah, not too knowledgeable on what a good drag setup is for this car. I believe RJ used D2 coilovers and set them all the way up, but that doesn't mean it's the best. Then again, that was to fit his 15" slicks, not his radials on stock wheels.
I had the K-sports (same as D2) when the car first went in to the 10s. It was actually lowered at the time. I didn't spin them up unil I went to the M&H 275/45 tire. At that point I think the suspension was out of wack because it wasn't designed to operate at that right height. I went back to stock on the taller tire which helped. I now run a heavy spring in the rear on GC sleeves with stock shocks... It has gone 1.54 60' like that but I still feel it isn't doinf what it's capable of. Still trying to find the right combo!
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Well damn, ok. GC sleeves are 450 shipped. What springs are you running? I'll update the list with that. Even if we say you need a 383 or 406 stroker, it looks like we're slowly chiseling away that total dollar amount.
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Originally Posted by bmylez
Well damn, ok. GC sleeves are 450 shipped. What springs are you running? I'll update the list with that. Even if we say you need a 383 or 406 stroker, it looks like we're slowly chiseling away that total dollar amount.
I only ran them because I had them on my other car and figured I'd give em a shot. I think they're 750lb eibachs on the rear. All I know is that's what I've tried because I needed to get above stock ride height with the big/fat tires... So what's sort of working for me at this point may not be ideal on the smaller drag radial. I think stock is a great place to start quite honestly
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Originally Posted by bmylez
Well damn, ok. GC sleeves are 450 shipped. What springs are you running? I'll update the list with that. Even if we say you need a 383 or 406 stroker, it looks like we're slowly chiseling away that total dollar amount.
Slowly? We are under 10k
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That's assuming the gen 4 diff, which from what I can tell, most people don't agree with...and your list leaves off injectors, fuel pump, tune, and the radials in question run about $600 (not 400)...it may sound like splitting hairs, but every dollar counts.
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But how many of these 10-second, 650 whp V2s are manuals? Obviously the V2 Auto guys have a huge advantage at the strip....
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I believe there's one guy with 660+ who ran a low-mid 10, but it's rare to see the manual guys dragging at all (as usual).
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Originally Posted by bmylez
That's assuming the gen 4 diff, which from what I can tell, most people don't agree with...and your list leaves off injectors, fuel pump, tune, and the radials in question run about $600 (not 400)...it may sound like splitting hairs, but every dollar counts.
At this point I think you are trolling or just ignorant to the facts.

Stock 243 heads are worth 550$
Stock diff 600
Stock axles 160$

Now we wil start from scratch
215 afar heads 2500
http://www.airflowresearch.com/index.php?cPath=76_113
Custom grind cam 500
Ls7 clutch cumbo 800
150 shot nitrous kit 800$
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Zex-82195...-Zex-82195.htm
8.8 3900$ creative steel regular price. Can be had less when on sales.
Swift spring combo 300$
Dyno tune 450$
60lb Injectors 380$
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Siemens-1...ens-107961.htm
Bap 400$
Mikey thompoms et 600$ eBay special
Obx headers 600
So we are at 11230

Subtract the value of your stock
We are at $9920
If you wait for sales u can save a additional 15% on most of those parts so that nets u around 8300$ and will leave you with 1600$ for bits and extras that I missed and 100$ for beer money for me.

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Well here it goes: assuming starting with ls2 car

823 heads 500$ used, 1400$ AI porting 1900$ total minus 450$ from stock heads. So 1450$
TDP stage 2 Trans build 1,000$
Clutch 900$ rxt
Stock shaft/voodoo chicken 300$
8.8 self built junk yard parts with upgraded axels 2,800$
4" crank used forum 500$
6.125" rods used forum 400$
Wiesco pistons new 730$
Ls7 fast intake 900$
Machine work 800$
Misc 500$
Cam 400$
Tune 500$
250 shot 1200$
Stand alone fuel system 450$
Injectors 450$
MT 275 DR 600$
Rear suspension 400$
Bushings for rear 400$

So far 14,680$ is my list.

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Excellent! I'll update the list.
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8.8 with drag radials, 200 shot, clutch, cam and driver should get you there. That would be the cheapest route I'd say
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We can bang keys all day long with speculation...

My question is, is anyone really going to set this goal and go for it?
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Originally Posted by gtistile
We can bang keys all day long with speculation...

My question is, is anyone really going to set this goal and go for it?
I can answer this.

No.


This conversation is a spill over from the Facebook page that has soooooo many retards on it that they don't come here because the intelligent quickly flame them and they never really post again.

You should go over there and post some vids of your beast. You'll blow their minds.


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