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Default Lug nuts. Yes, seriously, lug nuts.

So a few years ago I picked up some replacement lug nuts. I forget from where. Amazon, maybe.

They suck. Rusted and flaked instantly, and they're evil to thread.

I found a few in the garage that were on the car when I bought it (just not 20 of them--each wheel was missing some), and they're awesome. I have no idea where they came from. Maybe they're OEM, even.

So...who do you guys like for lug nuts? I'm tired of screwing around with the crap ones.
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McGard Spline Drives. They're the only lug nuts I've found that don't scratch, chip, or fade. The floating conical seat limits wear & tear to your wheels during tightening, which is relevant if you're removing your wheels frequently to do mods or clean them.



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65357 65357
for chrome finish and
65357BK 65357BK
for black finish. The black finish was a perfect match for my piano black Forgestar F14s.


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Agreed on the McGards, I have them on 3 of my 4 cars. I read somewhere that the black ones are black chrome, which would explain why the finish is so durable. With that said, McGard's website doesn't seem to say that anywhere, and Summit Racing says they're black anodized steel, so I dunno.
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I have McGards as well. I love them.
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DPAccessories LCB3B6HE-BK04024 24 Black 12x1.5 Closed End Bulge Acorn Lug Nuts - Cone Seat - 19mm Hex Wheel Lug Nut
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Been running them for over a year and lots of on and off with the wheels. Top of them is all you see and they are holding up. Some marks on the sides but they where cheap.
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i run muteki and KICS. i don't do spline drive and the ones i have are actually a two piece design with an outer cap so that you don't screw up the finish on them when you're torquing them down.

not everyone wants to pay $130+ for a set of lug nuts, though...

https://www.kamispeed.com/Kics-Leggd...o.wcl351xx.htm
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I think I like that design. Never heard of KICS though. How long have you had yours? How do they hold up? Do you swap wheels often?

Also, looks like I need to 5 lug swap so I can save a few dollars on lug nuts
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Originally Posted by Bio248
i run muteki and KICS.
Those two piece not an issue ?
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Originally Posted by BaMaDuDe87
Also, looks like I need to 5 lug swap so I can save a few dollars on lug nuts
Convince your SO with that line.
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Looks like the McGards are available without the swivel seat and standard acorn instead of the splines for a little less.

McGard 64015 Chrome/Black Bulge Cone Seat Style Lug Nuts (M12 x 1.5 Thread Size) - Set of 4
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Originally Posted by isis
Convince your SO with that line.
Its not her that needs the convincing. It's myself. $1,300 for the CS kit (....I know I know, but I want to keep my parking brake), plus rotors, plus wheels and tires.

I have been on the lookout for local 5x120 wheels with decent tires.
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Originally Posted by BaMaDuDe87
Its not her that needs the convincing. It's myself. $1,300 for the CS kit (....I know I know, but I want to keep my parking brake), plus rotors, plus wheels and tires.

I have been on the lookout for local 5x120 wheels with decent tires.
Dude, that $1300 price is for people that can't do a couple of Google searches to find the correct GM part numbers. If you pay it, you're a fool.
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Originally Posted by BaMaDuDe87
I think I like that design. Never heard of KICS though. How long have you had yours? How do they hold up? Do you swap wheels often?

Also, looks like I need to 5 lug swap so I can save a few dollars on lug nuts
i don't like to take my wheels off the car very often, but i end up doing it for one reason or another. both the muteki and KICS brands are well known and hold up well. i had those specific KICS lugs for a season and took them off for winter to run a little cheaper set. they're still perfect underneath the caps and have worn ZERO on the caps because you install them with a plastic socket. i really do like them a lot.

the thing i like to avoid personally is aluminum lug nuts. they corrode to the steel studs, cross thread, strip, etc. i understand there's weight savings there and when you're really trying all the weight you can lose counts, but i stick with steel lug nuts because i just don't want the hassle of dealing with the side effects to aluminum ones.



for the 5 lug stuff...i personally wrote the write up to get it done. there's several ways you can attack it based on budget and stuff, but it can easily be completed for under $500 with some hubs and redrilling your rotors. i'd highly recommend anyone looking into it to look at the base CTS hubs versus vette/XLR hubs so that you can end up with 5x115 versus 5x4.75. then you can run 5x114.3 wheels which are way, way more popular than 5x120 or 5x4.75 will ever be. i wish before i did mine that i figured that out so i wouldn't be stuck with 5x120 wheels. oh well, maybe one day i'll redo the swap with the base hubs, but that means buying/selling more sets of wheels...
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Originally Posted by AAIIIC
Agreed on the McGards, I have them on 3 of my 4 cars. I read somewhere that the black ones are black chrome, which would explain why the finish is so durable. With that said, McGard's website doesn't seem to say that anywhere, and Summit Racing says they're black anodized steel, so I dunno.
i just ordered new wheels for my 00’ firebird and I am looking at getting locking lug nuts. I’ve looked at the McGard splines but I can’t find a set of 20 so what other kinds should I look at?
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Originally Posted by Venom33
i just ordered new wheels for my 00’ firebird and I am looking at getting locking lug nuts. I’ve looked at the McGard splines but I can’t find a set of 20 so what other kinds should I look at?
Where are you looking? I just checked on Summit and there are 20-packs of McGard Spline Drives in multiple colors (black, gold, chrome, blue cap, red cap). McGard's website also shows multiple options, either with or without wheel locks.


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