thirdgenbum

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i have quadruple checked wiring. it just all of a sudden quit last season. anyone had this problem before?

ZONES89RS

iTrader: (25)

This is a first for me to hear of that issue. Is be willing to bet MSD will fix it for little cost since the box is not bad.

thirdgenbum

iTrader: (17)

i'm going to do a voltage drop test on the wire, just to be sure before i call MSD. this box is a replacement, lol. i wish they'd make a box with more functions. timing retard as a function of time/rpm, data logging, etc etc etc.

ZONES89RS

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It's more than that, it's a junkyard motor with a carb setup that stomps 99% of the other small block pushrod motors with near zero effort a and no high cost of Efi and tuning.

This is the carbed section and we love it. Lol

ZONES89RS

iTrader: (25)

Treed me, that was a good way to let him know that I think we have figured these things out by now. Lol

thirdgenbum

iTrader: (17)

i got a chance to finally spend a little time probing. the 2-step wires ARE getting voltage all the way to the box. no idea why it's not working, so it must be internal in the box i emailed MSD about it to find out if they have seen this before. hope to hear from them soon.

3pedals

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Good luck

thirdgenbum

iTrader: (17)

response from MSD:

"This is not a common issue on this particular ignition, however it is electronics so unfortunately anything is possible. Although you have checked your wiring, I have to ask if you have bypassed your switch on the dark blue wire and put this wire directly to 12 volts to see if it will activate?"

my response back to them:

"No i have not put direct 12v to the dark blue wire, bypassing the switch. however, my switch is feeding the 2-step AND a linelock solenoid, and the solenoid still works fine. i have not done a voltage drop or load test either, but i can't imagine this circuit takes much current to trigger."

that's where we stand with that at the moment. that was 2 days ago. no response.

ZONES89RS

iTrader: (25)

Well if you checked to see if power is to the wore sticking literally right out of the box, and your getting 12, then it's inside the box.

RATBOX

iTrader: (26)

Mine is doing exactly the same thing. Was working fine last year, but doesn't now. The laptop tells me that it's seeing a signal from the MSD box, "rev-lo on/off" when I activate the switch. wtf!

RATBOX

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Well, I don't know what kind of luck the OP has had. But, I just spoke with MSD and they said it sounds as though there's an internal issue with the box's two step function circuit. They then informed me that the 6010 is not repairable, so I'm just *** out and will need to buy a new one. Great product, MSD!

ZONES89RS

iTrader: (25)

Really? I would call and speak to someone. If you already did, I would speak to someone else.

RATBOX

iTrader: (26)

I talked to 3 different people, all of them said it was non-repairable and they wouldn't replace it. Had I known this thing was non-repairable I wouldn't have been so quick to buy it. I have had trouble with MSD 6AL boxes over the years, but they were all dealt with fairly by MSD. They pretty much told me I was SOL on this thing. Has all of barely 400 miles on it. Nobody on the phone lines or on the MSD tech site seems to give the slightest sh*t about it either.

thirdgenbum

iTrader: (17)

To be honest though Ratbox, what other options do we have? They have us by the ***** unless you want to dish out big coin for a distributor conversion....

i will be bringing this thread and your thread on MSD's page to the attention of the tech i've been in contact with. He was going to send out a repair order number so I'm not sure what he was talking about.

RATBOX

iTrader: (26)

Ya, I know. If I'm going to spend upwards of 3k for something different then the car will go back to EFI unfortunately. Still debating what to do about this.

3pedals

iTrader: (3)

If I was fed up with MSD, and wanted to stay carb, I would use a Mega Squirt EFI sytem to run the ignition. It would give you more timing control than the msd as well, and if you used an MS3, you could do datalogging too

RATBOX

iTrader: (26)

I'd definitely consider that, but I haven't seen a plug and play ignition system from MS available.

3pedals

iTrader: (3)

I beleive they do have plug and play harnesses for ls for the ms3? Or the ms3pro?, but you certainly pay more for that. If you were willing to wire it yourself, you could be into the setup for about the same $ as a replacement msd.

Black98s10

If the tecs are saying you are sol especially with such low miles, I'd take it higher up. Talk to someone in the corporate office. They don't want the bad press, and **** spreads like wildfire nowadays, with social media.

thirdgenbum

iTrader: (17)

^i have links to all 3 threads to the tech now. he called me within 20 minutes but my work doesn't allow me to take personal calls very easily. i am hoping to hear from him again as i called back and left a message. we'll see. the MS3 thing sounds interesting.