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Old 06-16-2014, 09:11 PM
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Stock 2010 6.0 with custom cam by Martin 229/253 duration 627 in 631 ex on a 109+3, Victor Jr., Pro Systems 780 4150 carb, 1 7/8 headers. Going in a 3100 pound street/ strip car with th400 with transbrake, Custom converter to match with 4.11 gear. Any suggestions?
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Thats a heck of a split on the cam! Reasons on why cuz im curious?
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Same here why the big split on duration???
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Because square port heads, that's why.

Sounds like a low 10 second car easily to me.
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Bet it is a thumper too.
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Due to me not wanting to flycut the pistons, the cam has to have a large split for the square port heads. I hope it will do low tens!
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As long as the converter, gearing/tire combo are working and the 60 foot is where it needs to be, it will roll out. That setup can make close to 600 HP if you spin it enough, lol.
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Sounds like a rock n' roller to me.
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Could imagine that engine in my coupe. I wouldn't tell nobody. It would still be the 317 headed lq4 with a trex.
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Thanks for all the help guys! I will post up when it's all together.
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Exhaust valve closing is quite late, hopefully it clears the piston okay.
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Originally Posted by 44mag
Due to me not wanting to flycut the pistons, the cam has to have a large split for the square port heads. I hope it will do low tens!
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Exhaust valve closing is quite late, hopefully it clears the piston okay.
No doubt. I wonder if the OP meant to say 229/243? The EVC/IVO relationship would look more typical if he did.
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That split is normal for a high rpm L92 cam. My guess is high tens... your leaving a lot on the table to be optimized.

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Well this trend/theory certainly contradicts a lot of what old Ed Iskenderian had to say about what 'works' in cam design.

With relatively small duration on the intake, thus in theory not maximising cylinder fill, I'm interested to know what holding open the exhaust valve with such duration is going to achieve. Is this all based on relatively weak flow of the stock exhaust port, or otherwise?

Hmmmm, interesting stuff anyway.
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No doubt. I wonder if the OP meant to say 229/243? The EVC/IVO relationship would look more typical if he did.
I'm pretty sure he said 253. I hope it clears!
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Originally Posted by VLS1
Well this trend/theory certainly contradicts a lot of what old Ed Iskenderian had to say about what 'works' in cam design.

With relatively small duration on the intake, thus in theory not maximising cylinder fill, I'm interested to know what holding open the exhaust valve with such duration is going to achieve. Is this all based on relatively weak flow of the stock exhaust port, or otherwise?

Hmmmm, interesting stuff anyway.
is it due to the massive inlet valve compared to the exhaust with the L92 heads??
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In for results....
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I'll see if I can post up a dyno graph of a cam I did recently in an identical combination. It replaced a TSP 235/239 111 camshaft.

Specs were 231/251 109+3.

It made 15 more peak hp, 25 more peak torque and gained nearly 25 average torque from 5000-7500rpm.

The car has been to the track since the cam swap and gained nearly two tenths in E.T. and 1.5mph.

Bozz is right though, this cam would not work in a heavy car without the mechanical aid of lower gears and a high rpm stall converter. The combo listed above that gained E.T./HP&TQ was in a 3000lb. race weight fox body Mustang with a 4.10 rear gear and 5200rpm stall.
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My 234/250 .621/.629 112+4 didn't clear with enough ptv for the general consensus of good. Different cam I know. I was just thinking this bigger split would be set up for spray or somethin along those lines?
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The OP has an exhaust valve relief from the factory. The 231/251 cam I posted about earlier had .060" intake valve clearance and well over .100" exhaust valve clearance as it also had an exhaust relief.


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