MSD 6010, More dots (plot points)?
10-08-2014, 04:10 PM
#4
You can add as many dots as you want. Just put your arrow at the spot you want it and right click. It will have on the list. Add a Dot. Left click it and its there.
10-08-2014, 04:11 PM
#5
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10-08-2014, 07:32 PM
#10
I can't remember how many are on there from the start but if there were six. I never erased any and I know I added at least 2 when I first started playing with the timing. And sorry, I thought you were asking how to do it.
10-08-2014, 07:43 PM
#11
yes. it also cured a lot of overheating issues. i originally had it at 24* (because the internet said so) and it always ran hotter than i liked. even after installing a crossover vent and 160* thermo. seemed like the fan never turned off and i would sometimes get worried on hot texas days in traffic.
i plugged in a chip trying to diagnose other problems and leaned the hard way that once you remove the chip, your custom tune does not come back. for that couple of weeks that i was running 15* timing at idle i was having major problems with engine temps.
once i learned that low idle timing was the cause of my bad engine temps i decided to go up with it. around 35* to 45* i couldnt tell a difference so i settled with 40*. throttle response from a red light is better, idle is cleaner, i never worry about engine temps no matter how hot it is. it seems like a totally different truck. i think my MPG may have improved too.
i am fixing to get into MAP tuning. my plan is to run 12* at 0 RPM and ramp it to 31* by 500 RPM and flat line it across the board on the rpm based timing.
on the map side i want to run an additional 10 - 15* at any cruising MAP pressure between idle and 3000 rpm (whatever map valuse i find the truck settles into.
this way i'll always be running anywhere between 40*-45* at idle and cruise, but once i put my foot into it i will see 31*. as i creep up on my WOT timing, i will reduce the MAP values.
i plugged in a chip trying to diagnose other problems and leaned the hard way that once you remove the chip, your custom tune does not come back. for that couple of weeks that i was running 15* timing at idle i was having major problems with engine temps.
once i learned that low idle timing was the cause of my bad engine temps i decided to go up with it. around 35* to 45* i couldnt tell a difference so i settled with 40*. throttle response from a red light is better, idle is cleaner, i never worry about engine temps no matter how hot it is. it seems like a totally different truck. i think my MPG may have improved too.
i am fixing to get into MAP tuning. my plan is to run 12* at 0 RPM and ramp it to 31* by 500 RPM and flat line it across the board on the rpm based timing.
on the map side i want to run an additional 10 - 15* at any cruising MAP pressure between idle and 3000 rpm (whatever map valuse i find the truck settles into.
this way i'll always be running anywhere between 40*-45* at idle and cruise, but once i put my foot into it i will see 31*. as i creep up on my WOT timing, i will reduce the MAP values.
10-08-2014, 08:43 PM
#12
Ours acted the same way. The higher we went with the timing. The cooler it ran. Our sweet spot was 34.
10-09-2014, 10:51 AM
#15
started to do a little digging on map tuning today and found a great thread by speedtigger. i thought my idea of flat lining the timing at 500rpm and adding idle/cruise time through map was original. tigger was way ahead of me lol.
speedtigger took it 1 step further in post #2 of this thread which i never considered. i plan to copy his lead and see how it works. i dont see how i wouldnt like it. here is my plan of attack:
RPM BASED TIME
12* at 0rpm
ramp to 22* at 500 rpm and flat line to 1200rpm
ramp to 31* all in by 2000rpm and flat line to 200,000,000 RPM
MAP BASED TIME
i'll log typical cruise map pressures up to around 85mph and add 14* in all of those ranges, then quickly ramp to zero. this will keep my idle at 36* timing and can get up to 45* of timing at cruise speed. foot hit floor = 31*.
my only concearn is the timing jump from idle (approx 1k on my truck) to the ramp rate into cruise range at 1,200 rpm. i'm curious if the idle will try to hang or act funny in that range when coming back to idle. we'll see. i'm pretty sure the timing range is basically the same on all efi vehicles so it shouldnt be a problem. i also hope to see an improvement in my 60'? the throttle response feels better at 40* instead of the 24 i originally had. maybe the motor will like the additional timing in at launch before it drops back down to 31*. the pickup had a best N/A 60' time of 1.47 at a 1500 rpm brake stall which was only around 26* on my old tune. now i'll be around 40* of timing at a 1,500 brake stall.
here is the thread by speedtigger. i think it should be a sticky. does anyone have other methods of tuning by MAP?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/carburete...dtigger-p.html
speedtigger took it 1 step further in post #2 of this thread which i never considered. i plan to copy his lead and see how it works. i dont see how i wouldnt like it. here is my plan of attack:
RPM BASED TIME
12* at 0rpm
ramp to 22* at 500 rpm and flat line to 1200rpm
ramp to 31* all in by 2000rpm and flat line to 200,000,000 RPM
MAP BASED TIME
i'll log typical cruise map pressures up to around 85mph and add 14* in all of those ranges, then quickly ramp to zero. this will keep my idle at 36* timing and can get up to 45* of timing at cruise speed. foot hit floor = 31*.
my only concearn is the timing jump from idle (approx 1k on my truck) to the ramp rate into cruise range at 1,200 rpm. i'm curious if the idle will try to hang or act funny in that range when coming back to idle. we'll see. i'm pretty sure the timing range is basically the same on all efi vehicles so it shouldnt be a problem. i also hope to see an improvement in my 60'? the throttle response feels better at 40* instead of the 24 i originally had. maybe the motor will like the additional timing in at launch before it drops back down to 31*. the pickup had a best N/A 60' time of 1.47 at a 1500 rpm brake stall which was only around 26* on my old tune. now i'll be around 40* of timing at a 1,500 brake stall.
here is the thread by speedtigger. i think it should be a sticky. does anyone have other methods of tuning by MAP?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/carburete...dtigger-p.html
Last edited by TXsilverado; 10-09-2014 at 11:02 AM.