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Old 01-31-2015, 06:37 PM
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Default Stock cube LS3 build

Wanted to share my latest build with you guys. I have a plethora of **** laying around and I had enough stuff to put together an LS3. Stock block, crank, and cylinder head castings with a used set of h-beam rods. Really the only thing new that I bought for this was a camshaft, pistons, and rings. Most everything else I had laying around. Did a few tricks with the short block to free up some power, and worked on the heads a good bit. Cut down and regrooved some titanium valves for the heads and put 7/16 stud mount rockers in them. Worked on the super victor a good bit to get it right. I put a vacuum pump on it but ended up having to run the engine without it hooked up. My goal was 750hp at 8000rpm. Finally got it buttoned up and on the dyno today. Here are the results




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Wow that sounds killer at 8,000 RPM. Tremendous power too.
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Holy hell Todd
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freakin awesome. been saying to buddies that 700hp easily achieveable on stockish ls3.

solid roller?
factory 823 heads?
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Most impressive for sure. I was impressed when Barrett made 650 HP with his stock bottom end LQ4 and L92 heads. Amazing what another 1000 RPMs can do. Makes me want to call Callies right now.

I see the dyno numbers bounced around quite a bit. Did it really have a torque peak of 6600 RPM? How much valve spring does this engine have on it?

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Yeah peak tq was between 66-6800 on all of the pulls. It will move up the higher the peak hp goes. Springs are 275 seat and 870 open.
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How much lift and how tall on the valves?
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I don't remember valve length, I'd have to go back and look at my notes. I did the valves last year sometime. They are a little longer than stock length. It's been a project that I've been messing with in my spare time. Gross valve lift is just under .800" after lash.
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Originally Posted by dogsballs
freakin awesome. been saying to buddies that 700hp easily achieveable on stockish ls3.

solid roller?
factory 823 heads?
Yeah it's a solid roller with hand ported 823 heads that had a nitrous exhaust runner.
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Awesome results, what fuel are you running? Static comp and rough cam numbers?
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Originally Posted by WE TODD DID
Yeah it's a solid roller with hand ported 823 heads that had a nitrous exhaust runner.
interesting. we're using the 5364 rectangle casting and seeing some really nice numbers from hand porting. i'm building a stock bottom end and head 6.0 with super vic as well; so all of this is very very promising. my cam is well over 700 lift, but not 800 territory
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Nice pull what size carb? What fuel?
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
I see the dyno numbers bounced around quite a bit. Did it really have a torque peak of 6600 RPM? How much valve spring does this engine have on it?
i thought the same thing with the numbers, but if you actually plot the numbers on a graph, it actually doesn't look that bad (jumping around)
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The heads went 365 cfm. Cam was 272/288 @ .050", just under .800" gross lift. 1150 dominator carb and q16 fuel. The fluctuation in numbers was the load on the dyno. Had to turn the dyno out more because we didn't anticipate the engine to make that kind of power. Started out with a 950 4150 carb and picked up about 30hp switching to the 1150.

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Nice, what static comp?
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curious what the corrections are for the engine horsepower in the 4th column to the 2nd column?? i assume STP is standard temp. are you at altitude?
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Fourth column is observed (net)hp without any correction. Doesn't include the friction factor (borexstroke), or weather conditions. STP is standard temperature and pressure. Second column is corrected (gross)hp.
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Those heads ported to the max? as in maxed out with potential flow numbers?
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No I'm pretty sure I can get them to flow more, but they won't run any better on this engine. Flow numbers are a by product of a correctly sized runner for the given engine displacement and desired peak rpm. I could make these runners bigger, flow more, and slow the air speed down as a result, and it will lose power. When I put a cylinder head on the flow bench, I use it as a tool not to necessarily see how much it flows, but to listen to the port, making sure it isn't turbulent or start backing up. I can also change the entry radius on the intake runner on the flow bench and make the air do a lot of different ****. Just like the exhaust, if I stick a pipe on the end of the runner, it'll usually pick up about 25cfm depending on the port. There is a lot of manipulation in the cylinder head market in regards to flow numbers.

I'll give you an example of flow numbers. I can take a standard "ported" exhaust port with an 89% throat, and I can take the same port and open the throat to 92% and it will lose cfm, but it will run faster. With a smaller throat, you can get a nicer short turn radius and "flow" better, but it won't run as fast as the big throat.

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