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Old 03-25-2009, 03:30 PM
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So I've been doing a lot of planning for my FC swap... When it comes to exhaust I know the type of sound I want but not sure what style of muffler makes it.

The best example I can give is Infinity/Nissan and Older Ferrari. Throaty and burbly rather than rumbling and thumping. A G35 or 350Z is quiet until you get into it then it rips!

Any one know how to get those characteristics out of aftermarket exhaust? I know for sure I want really sleeper quiet but enough that I can hear it when I accelerate.

By default I'm looking at 3" duals, X pipe and dually magnaflow cans at about 18" long and 8 diameter or oval even to get the most volume tucked in there. The 3" pipe is dictated by the LS7 manifolds and head pipes I'm using. Cats intact.

I almost wondering if it will be too quiet with cats, x-pipe and mufflers though. Then again it's 3" hahaha


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I love the sound of the 350z/g35. i've heard that the borla system for the 350z makes it even sweeter - quiet at idle yet sounds like a som'bitch @ wot. i test-drove a g37s when they first came out, and they absolutely nailed the perfect exhaust note (at least for a stock v6).

that being said, the harmonics of a v8 are much different than those of a v6, so the exhaust note will be different (and better, imo).

go to http://www.ls1sounds.com/ to hear some different exhaust systems.
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Nice! Thanks

I do know a V6 sounds different but I believe I can get the same character or note but with the sweeter V8 rhythm. I agree with you on that.
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I'm not familiar with the Nissan/Infinity bit, but I was looking for a similar (exotic?) sound for my LS1 Chevelle I'm building. What I was looking for was a smooth but throaty sound. Rule #1 is that the sound can't be "poppy" like the SLP Loud Mouth and many others currently on the market for LS-powered F-body cars. Personally, that raspy sound reminds me of a 30-year old grain truck in need of a new muffler.

After a lot of comparing, I ended up buying a couple of "turbo-style" mufflers from SLP (these mufflers are completely different from the Loud Mouth mufflers). They were built as part of an aftermarket exhaust system for a full-size Chevy truck, and I was able to get them on clearance from SLP. Here's a sample of what I'm hoping they'll resemble once I get everything put together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awcg7...e=channel_page
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Originally Posted by kst8engineer
I was looking for was a smooth but throaty sound. Rule #1 is that the sound can't be "poppy" like the SLP Loud Mouth and many others currently on the market for LS-powered F-body cars. Personally, that raspy sound reminds me of a 30-year old grain truck in need of a new muffler.

You and I see it the same way on all points, I think it may be a bit of a challenge for me to package though. I looked at the mufflers on SLP site, thanks for the hint. I have room for an 8" round by about 20" long or an oval 8" in my little Mazda.

I don't want it to sound like a truck, and I outlived my racer boy days lol! Seems like an x-pipe will help mellow the sound, the only mufflers in that size range I've found so far are Magnaflow. I may have to bite the bullet and take a risk.
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Lurk, if you really want to give your LS the sound of a Ferrari or other exotic V8, try "180 degree headers".

They take extra space over/under the engine and look like a "bundle of snakes" but they give you the "formula 1" sound instead of the NASCAR sound.

See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSZTbR6C6Lw
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...degree+headers
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...degree+headers
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Originally Posted by Lurk
You and I see it the same way on all points, I think it may be a bit of a challenge for me to package though. I looked at the mufflers on SLP site, thanks for the hint. I have room for an 8" round by about 20" long or an oval 8" in my little Mazda.
If you're tight on room, the SLP's would definitely be a challenge. They not small by any means. Here's a pic of the mufflers with the Pypes 2.5" stainless X-pipe I'll be using.

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Your cam also has a lot to do with it. I too really don't like the sound of a retardedly poppy and loud LS that sounds like it's about to die.

Stock came with Magnaflows in this video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1llCRWNrRU
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Originally Posted by kst8engineer
If you're tight on room, the SLP's would definitely be a challenge. They not small by any means. Here's a pic of the mufflers with the Pypes 2.5" stainless X-pipe I'll be using.

damn, that's an excellent muffler for an A-body and looks like it will tuck up real thin. Nice!
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Originally Posted by frojoe
Your cam also has a lot to do with it. I too really don't like the sound of a retardedly poppy and loud LS that sounds like it's about to die.

Stock came with Magnaflows in this video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1llCRWNrRU

Good point. I'll be running an LS7 cam in my L92. Should be near glass smooth and very little pop from overlap. Yeah, I really want this to sound smooth with a slight performance lope, maybe the better word is clean. Subtle on idle and cruise, aggressive when getn' it !

That Velle sounds surprisingly good. The Vette wheels were a bit of a shock at first! Not bad.
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Originally Posted by SteveH
Lurk, if you really want to give your LS the sound of a Ferrari or other exotic V8, try "180 degree headers".

They take extra space over/under the engine and look like a "bundle of snakes" but they give you the "formula 1" sound instead of the NASCAR sound.

See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSZTbR6C6Lw
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...degree+headers
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...degree+headers

Damn Steve, that really does sound different. I can't get over it. It feels like an X pipe does some of this but in a sloppy way.

The sound I'm thinking of it to me sounds like a dog throwing a chest growl. Menacing but subtle.
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Originally Posted by kst8engineer
I'm not familiar with the Nissan/Infinity bit, but I was looking for a similar (exotic?) sound for my LS1 Chevelle I'm building. What I was looking for was a smooth but throaty sound. Rule #1 is that the sound can't be "poppy" like the SLP Loud Mouth and many others currently on the market for LS-powered F-body cars. Personally, that raspy sound reminds me of a 30-year old grain truck in need of a new muffler.

After a lot of comparing, I ended up buying a couple of "turbo-style" mufflers from SLP (these mufflers are completely different from the Loud Mouth mufflers). They were built as part of an aftermarket exhaust system for a full-size Chevy truck, and I was able to get them on clearance from SLP. Here's a sample of what I'm hoping they'll resemble once I get everything put together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awcg7...e=channel_page

I like the sound of that Yukon!
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Originally Posted by SteveH
Lurk, if you really want to give your LS the sound of a Ferrari or other exotic V8, try "180 degree headers".

They take extra space over/under the engine and look like a "bundle of snakes" but they give you the "formula 1" sound instead of the NASCAR sound.

See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSZTbR6C6Lw
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...degree+headers
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...degree+headers
I really like the 180 degree header sound, possibly with some nice mufflers tacked on behind to bring the volume down a bit. It seems like the low intake manifold and the lack of a distributor sitting on top of the engine might make the LSx engine a good candidate for the 180-degree crossover design. Schoenfeld Headers makes a 180 crossover for the old SBC, and they have a few different header options for LSx's, but not a 180 crossover.

I'd love to see pictures of the headers on that Vette.



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