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Old 01-02-2010, 12:20 AM
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Default Any alternatives on bypassing VSS...

From what i gather, you need to wire in a VSS to help idle, especially on a max effort cam(which is what I have). Is there any alternatives or easier way to work with VSS? What did you guys do about it. I was advised that it could be turned off in the program, but I will have idle issues especially with a lumpy cam.


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extra info: 99 ls1, going into a 5 speed 944 turbo
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I think the bigger issue is coming to a stop while driving. The engine will occasionally want to die.
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OK. Now for a stupid question. What is VSS? Vehicle speed sensor? Where are they
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Vehicle Speed Sensor. It's in the tranny and tells the computer how fast the car is moving.
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while on decel, the ecm can pull timing. not a tuner, but this would be my guess.
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Vehicle Speed Sensor. It's in the tranny and tells the computer how fast the car is moving.
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pretty sure VSS dont do squat at idle! most importantly, it provides a couple hundred extra RPM when decelerating down to stop.think about it...when stopping, butterflys are closed but you might be from 60 mph-0, and the motor will want to stall without this extra rpm
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With the GMPP kit VSS is optional. So they dont see it as necessary, but then again that tune is for a specific engine with manual trans and electronic throttle control.

VSS is used to transition back and forth from different idle control modes.

With LS1 PCM's/cable throttle there are tuning options that a good tuner can use to work around lack of VSS if there are any issues.
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with the jeeps I have tuned we dont use the VSS. and they have alot of on/off throttle and forward to reverse situations.
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Thanks for the input guys.....

My concern would be on stop and go traffic. Although my car will not be a daily driver, I would not like to stall in traffic as it will get annoying.

So in conclusion, VSS controls the on/off throttle. And I guess I have to talk to a tuner to see how it could be bypassed. Any other experiences?
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Hey, I saw your post in the Audi thread that you were stuffing a LS into a Porsche, so i searched your posts ( yes i was stalking you for a moment) to see what and i can actually answer this question. Easiest and cleanest way I have come up with is to use one of the factory ABS sensors. You can tune for it with HPT, the Porsche VSS is a no go. The other (RH) solution is using the 944 cam gear split and bolted to the cv shaft with a sensor, it looks horrible.

Good luck with your swap, If you need anymore info, I am in the middle of the same swap myself, and have been researching for a few years.

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